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truhavoc Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:37 PM
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Where do people here get their news from?
Just curious with all the bias recently?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:38 PM
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1. CBC, BBC
American journalism cannot be trusted.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:41 PM
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2. Everywhere
I read everything. Local news, newspapers. National networks, CNN, Faux, MSNBC. Then for real news, I go to BBC, Guardian, etc.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:42 PM
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3. Bias which way? Where?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:01 PM
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10. There is bias, and then there is bias

To an extent, all newspapers are biased in that they will report news that they believe will be of interest to their readers, and from the standpoint of how the news affects those readers.

In the US, Middle Eastern news stories are frequently criticized for their coverage of civilian casualties of US activities in the region.

Yet few of the critics stop to think, if the US were invaded by Malaysia, would Canadian TV be more likely to show their viewers cute Malaysian toddlers lisping about daddy gone to kill the bad guys, or destroyed American homes and bleeding American children?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:43 PM
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4. mostly from the commondreams website
http://www.commondreams.org/

it is a great resource.

welcome to DU, truhavoc.



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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:48 PM
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5. NPR, The Economist, and Scientific American
Local I get from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

I read a lot of other media but those are my main sources and the ones that I trust.
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mose82 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:48 PM
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6. The Internet!
I use Google news and then pick and choose. News sites from U.K. and Canada are usually the best, even for news that only pertains to the U.S. (!) I don't bother with MSNBC, CBS, much less FOX. ABC and CNN are marginally O.K., if you stay alert for Repub bias.

Also, DU, particualrly the Conservative Idiots feature, is actually a top source of hard (political) news for me. Bartcop.com is also great, with lots of links to the news of the day, not just politics.

My local newspaper is a distant second to the internet. TV news is for shmoes.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:52 PM
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7. thats where GlobalFreePress get's it's news from, too...
http://GlobalFreePress.com

thank GORE he 'invented' the internet ;->

welcome to DU :hi:

peace
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:25 PM
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33. Hi mose82!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:53 PM
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8. My favorite news-gathering strategy
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 12:56 PM by DuctapeFatwa
Read the raw wires. You can learn a lot simply by noting what comes across, versus how long it takes to hit CNN, etc., or if it ever does.

Read press from everywhere. There is a page, tapu.info with news links to papers all over the world. Read as many as is humanly possible.

Use the internet. Get to know people. One of the best things about the net is that if CNN says "it's raining in France," you can go to #paris and ask, "Are you guys wet?" *

Read between the lines. Many times, what is not said is bigger news than what is. The same with what is chosen from raw wires, and by whom, and when.

Remember that information that comes from any government, anywhere, is what that government wants you to know and/or think.

Compare government releases with news stories on the same subject. Many times "reliable" news sources do little more than rewrite government press releases.

For example, CNN typically ends every story with a brief statement of the US government's position on the issue.

When reading news of conflicts, pay close attention to the "angle" or "spin" of your sources, and how much space is given to the effects of the conflict on BOTH sides.

If a news source contains a lot of up-close and personal stories of Hutus who have been attacked by Tutsis, and very little of the same about Tutsis who have been attacked by Hutus, it is unlikely that you can count on that source to tell you a lot about what is happening in that conflict, except from a one-sided point of view. Sometimes that is all you can get. You just have to read the Hutu paper, and then read the Tutsi paper.

* It is true that if you do this, 3 people will say no, 2 will say they are drowning, 1 will tell you that Frenchmen are never wet, but be patient and you will find 9 or 10 who will tell you that either they are carrying umbrellas, or that they are not.



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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:59 PM
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9. LBN forum here is pretty nice.
Often posts stories that would not be prominent in major news source.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:04 PM
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11. DU
Usually tips me off about what's going on; points me in the right direction.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:43 PM
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12. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:52 PM
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13. Bias is a fact of life..
When you choose a blue shirt, you are (on that day) , biased against the yellow shirt :)

Try www.newslink.org

I like to click on the individual states and look at "local" papers.. It's very interesting to me to see how a "national issue" is treated in a local edition and vice versa..

They also have links to specialty papers and local TV & radio websites..

It's all about balance... (Not the Fox version of balance)

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:00 PM
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14. Pick a major city anywhere in the world.
That city now has a newspaper online. It helps if you can read several languages, but many do produce English versions. It some times takes a few weeks of reading to figure out which newspapers have a rightward or leftward bias, but I read a lot of them anyway just see what people in other countries are thinking, what they value, what the regard as important.
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rhino91063 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:02 PM
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15. CBS Radio, Democratic Underground,
Buzzflash and Yahoo.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:04 PM
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16. Google, then where ever that takes me
Yahoo and various on-line newspapers.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:05 PM
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17. DemocracyNow! & Free Speech Radio News primarily
& various newspapers
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:11 PM
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18. A wide range of Internet sources
I depend on DU for breaking stories, and I follow up a lot of the links. If a story is moving really fast, I'm likely to check it out on Google News as well.

I look at half a dozen political blogs every day and follow their links as well. I rely on Slashdot for tech news, copyright and censorship issues, etc.

I go to Archaeologica News and Anthropology in the News for a range of historical and cultural information, and Phenomena Magazine and The Anomalist for my daily dose of weird science and bizarre events.

I check Rotten Tomatoes about once a week to keep up with what's happening in movies, and Ain't-It-Cool News for geek media highlights.

There are certain sites I've monitored intensively for brief periods when they seemed particularly relevant, like the War in Iraq site last spring.

And if something catches my attention or seems not to add up, I'm likely to Google until I get to the bottom of it.

I have almost no contact with tv news or traditional print media these days, and I can't say I miss them. I feel much better informed than I did, say, thirty years ago, when everything I knew came from reading The Village Voice, Rolling Stone, and The Sunday New York Times.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:16 PM
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19. How about you, truhavoc?
In the interest of full disclosure, where do you get your news from? I get mine from the NY Times, truthout, buzzflash, and The Guardian, among others. I don't have a television.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 08:00 PM
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36. truhavoc holds his cards pretty close to his chest
Check his profile.
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Catt04 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:25 PM
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20. Other alternatives rather than what is available
on cable and prime time.

I go to Slate and Salon to read a little more in depth on certain issues. Recently read that the news goes there also; to get the news.

Also read London and Canadian news and try to find a moderate source that is not actually liberal but not conservative either. Happen to like the LA Times and NPR. Used to like CBS but Mooves appears to be in some kind of manic state lately and find it very unreliable. Most of the time I like Peter Jennings too.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:31 PM
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21. Pacifica KPFA and the internet
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:32 PM
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22. Just from here,
the media cannot be trusted.
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annonymous Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:53 PM
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23. I get my news from the Internet.
The main news sites I go to are Buzzflash, Commondreams and Alternet. I get my local news from my community newspaper.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:04 PM
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24. Always "Trolling"...Start with AP and move on...
Every morning I start with the latest AP newscast...2 minutes or so...very straight up of what I've missed.

Next it's on to CNN to see if the world blew up overnight...a scan of the other channels as well (that's done all day long), just for giggles and to compare spin. I have the luxuary of sitting in my office the majority of the day with full access and hop around to a variety of broadcast and internet sources.

Of course there's DU and Buzzflash with the latest tibits to read up on from around the world...and I will pop through as diverse sites as the AEI and Freeperville to Al Jezeerah and other clandestine sites that show me where the extremes on things are at.

On the radio, NPR is the station of choice. I'm lucky to be able to get several different stations (Northern Illinois University, Chicago Public Radio, Wisconsin Ideas Network, University of Illinois and Iowa) plus a selection of low-powered educational stations (in the waaaay high part of the dial 88-92) that air Pacifica and other alternative news program. (Note: in the Chicago area WLUW (88.7 - Loyola University), WZRD (88.3 - Northeastern Illinois), WHPK (88.5 - U. of Chicago), WNUR (89.3 - Northwestern) are places to pop in on now and then for some interesting listening).

There's more I can go into, but this is just a start. I always am finding interesting sites and expanding my knowledge on issues. Thanks to DU in particular, you can use this place as a great jumping off point on virtually any topic.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:09 PM
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25. Hi and welcome to DU, truhavoc.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 03:15 PM
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26. For print news on line:
The Guardian, BBC, New York Times, Washington Post, my city newspaper, and here of course.
For news on tv, C-Span 1 and 2 and PBS.

:dem:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:14 PM
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27. a drive by?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:21 PM
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28. DU, Yahoo News, BBC, CBC, Boston Globe,
Lawrence (MA) Eagle Tribune.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:59 PM
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29. Information Clearing House dot com
He 'delivers' a dozen or so stories to me everyday...from various initial sources: the Atlantic, BBC, Moscow Times, NY Times, UK's Guardian, UK"s Independent, Washington Post, etc. I highly recommend his free service-saves me alot of time and I love the quotations he includes.
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:04 PM
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30. Aussie News BBc,Cbc
and online newspapers.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:05 PM
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31. Follow the bouncing ball man!
Next thing ya know your'll be wanting to know what folks drink around here, jeeez!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:05 PM
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32. The Onion. The Daily Show. My Aunt Fannie:the cul-de-sac keeper of all
things newsworthy.



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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:45 PM
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34. international print media
available online, cspan, npr, cnn.
Saw part of a piece on cspan on this morning's booknotes. The guy cited a university study (cannot remember which U) that indicated misconceptions about facts perpetrated by mainstream media - 80% from Fox; 50% from CNN; 25% from NPR and I cannot remember the percentage from newspapers, but it was on the lower end of the scale.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:53 PM
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35. cu, buzzflash, cable tv
cspan/cnn/weatherchannel/abc/nbc/npr/democracynow/stpetetimes/tampatribune/any place I can see/read/think. my clicker is about worn out.
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