McCain is right: Bush did NOT manipulate intel...

[TruthIsAll]

Lies about WMD intel were a product of the Office of Special Plans. By Cheney and Rumsfeld and Perle and Wolfowitz. They just told the Chimp what to say. Just look at the Wilson Niger report. Wilson said it was bogus, but the PNAC boys said just the opposite. And so it appeared in SOTU, even after Tenet warned Bush not to do it.

Bush is so dumb, he believed the OSP crew. He always claimed he would defer to his advisors and never question their better judgment.

So, yes, McCain is technically correct. Bush didn't do it. His handlers did.

[loudnclear]

1. Don't for one minute buy it. Bush knew he was manipulating the intel

We are letting the administration and media frame the issue once again. Any investigation MUST include the "use" of intel as well as the quality of the intel. If you misues even excellent intel you can get the same results that we are faced with today. Chaos and unnecessary loss of lives and resources.

[TruthIsAll]

9. Of course he knew. My point is that he will jettison

Cheney or Wolfie or Perle or Rummy if necessary. In fact, he is getting ready for Cheney to take the fall, if necessary, for the Plame leak.

And McCain is just positioning himself to get the nomination when the Perfect Scandal Storm begins and the Repukes decide that Bush must resign. They fear losing Congress, along with the Presidency, in a Kerry landslide.

The buck will never stop with him.

It's his last defense. They did it. He just used the intel he was given.

[librechik]

12. I agree--he is as crooked as they come

he may not understand the complex reasoning behind PNAC,(who does?) but he is shrewd enough to encourage and intimidate his pals to lie and cover his ass for him.

Shrub is a sad, sad fraud in every cell of his body, and he knows it. It's obvious to anyone after watching him for even a few minutes. Anyone who doesn't see it is either a moron or a complicit con job, just like the Thief in Chief.

[codegreen]

2. this might actually be the real scenario

that The Emperor is, in fact, so stupid and pliable that everyone around him are the truest culprits.

that in no way vindicates him, as we all know. he is an incompetent fool and we are all in danger everyday that he and his cronies are in power.

[Gman]

3. Bush did NOT manipulate the intel

That's like the CEO doing some manual job... He had `someone else do it until he and the neocons were happy with it.

[Nlighten1]

4. Where does the buck stop?

[mike1963]

6. These days, the buck stops at Halliburton.

:grr:

[indepat]

5. One of the greatest potential dangers to a Republic such as this would

be to have a president who is orchestrated to say what he is told. The danger is when those who surround such a president have their own extreme agenda that might not be legal, ethical, or for that matter, even Constitutional, much less legal under international law, humane, in the best interest of the Republic, et al.

[StClone]

10. And a Republican

That is proven not to be his own man would go against that glowing idolization of passionate self-determination. He being revealed as we all know, an inept, incurious, inarticulate and leashed sheep.

[lastknowngood]

7. Good to see the "independent commission" has already

finished it's work.

[maggrwaggr]

8. McCain is a lying sack of republican shit

McCain, if he had any decency at all, I don't care if he's Dem or Repug, ANYBODY in this country at this point, regardless of their party affiliation should be fucking PISSED off that Bush lied, took us to war, and is now whitewashing it with his own commission.

That anybody would play party politics with this is disgusting beyond belief.

[KG]

11. of course chimpy did NOT manipulate intel - he just flat our lied.

[WilliamPitt]

13. Ahem

http://kucinich.us/DennisKucinichWasRight.pdf

[TNMOM]

14. Don't Let Bush off so easily

Bush may be intellectually lazy, but he is relentless in pursuing his poltical ambition. Everyone knows Bush is the sleeziest politician this side of Nixon. Look who he's surrounded himself with. I don't believe for a minute that Bush unwittingly used bad intel. Bush KNEW he was lying.

[madrchsod]

15. yes bush isn`t intelligent

enough to make judgements. he`s a younger reagan, he`s told what to do and say.

[salinen]

16. Once we crush this cabal

the work will be just the beginning of the clean up. Roll up our sleeves and get to work.

[MoonRiver]

17. So could * be trying to save his sorry arse from the Hague by

appointing an independent council that might REALLY identify the evil masterminds behind Iraqgate?

Personally, I doubt it, as I don't think he's had an independent thought for 40 years, at least.

However, it is interesting that he's going on MTP like any other ordinary mortal. Maybe away from Rove's and Cheney's control he'll reveal that he's been a hapless captive of these neocon fiends and is now begging Democrats to give him asylum. ??????? I mean things are getting so weird in the Land of Oz that who the f%#@ knows what's going on anymore????