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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:16 AM
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Does it get any more bizarre than this?
It turns out that a top Pakastani nuclear scientist has been feeding technology for twenty years to our most hated enemies; Iran, N. Korea and Lybia.

Mushareff says "Oh my, how unfortunate. But we think he (the scientist) is really a good person at heart, so all is forgiven".

Our own government says "Oh my, how unfortunate. But we think he (Mushareff) is really a good person at heart, so all is forgiven".

Yet, we just went to war against a country for "suspecting" they "might" have (or want to have) nuclear technology - when they didn't - killing thousands of innocent civilians along with over 500 of our own sons and daughters.

And now it turns out that for 20 years there's been a burgeoning market in nuclaer technology throughout Africa and the ME including Malaysia where the president's son is a shareholder in the engineering company invloved. Of course, they plan to "investigate".

Our intelligence community, so admired by us that we spend billions of dollars a year on them, seems to have had no clue as well. This, the same intelligence community that had no inkling that the Soviet Union was about to collapse until it did. The same inteligence community that had no human-intelligence on the ground in Iraq yet was prepared to support totally bogus estimates of Iraq's military capability for political reasons.

It would be difficult to be a journalist these days because it would be impossible to know which head of the thousand-headed-snake that winds through the global corporations and governments and RW think tanks and portfolios of those running our own government - is the most important one to examine first. And because when you finally understood part of what you were looking at - no one would care anyway.

So instead you examine the weighty repurcussions of the breast shot heard round the world.

Is it just me or does anybody else here feel like we're on a movie set where there is no script or story line, where everyone is walking around with all these real loaded weapons and no-one is in charge of continuity. All we only know is we're supposed to do something violent for the director.

Lights, cameras . . .

Margi

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:27 AM
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1. And didn't I hear that Saddam was offered the technology
but said no thanks ? We missed that too.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:28 AM
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2. Just business as usual for the wrong-wing wackos; if there is money
to be made, particularly if it's going into the pockets of someone whose pockets are already overflowing, then it's a good thing, right?
Hypocrisy run rampant, thy name is Repugnican!!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:31 AM
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3. And then there was the CIA agent who's responsibilities was WMD
proliferation. She got outed out of spite. Maybe there is more to her outing than first realized. Maybe she was onto something the Cabal didn't want known. She had to have some knowlege of Pakistan.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:39 AM
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6. Maybe if we each grabbed one head . .
. . of the snake and pulled, out would pop the body of the beast.

Would it look like R. Mellon Scaiffe or Fellini's incubus - or are they one and the same?

I need to roll a joint.
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liberal72 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:33 AM
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4. Nothing new
Does anyone else see that we are making the same mistake with Mushareff that we did with Saddam. Have we completely forgotten that this man is a military dictator that came to power in a military coup? And that he has WMDs and is the dictator of a country that hates India, who also has nuclear weapons, and are always in some kind of military conflict with India.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:04 PM
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11. Yes, but
The afghan oil pipeline ends up in Pakistan, and Mushareff is willing to play ball.

:grr:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:39 AM
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5. Bush spokesman congrats Musharraf on this whitewash
Scott McLellan, the press secretary, has thanked Musharraf for getting to the bottom of this. Yeah, right. Let's see: The scientist confirms proliferation of nuclear weapons technology to the highest bidder, with approval of higher ups (including Musharraf); then switches gears, takes sole responsibility, and is pardoned a day later - by Musharraf. Meanwhile, the Bush administration looks the other way, congratulates the Pakistani leadership and drops the whole thing. Do you feel safer knowing that Bush is in office? These are confirmed weapons of mass destruction, for God's sake. But, Pakistan is not on the neocon agenda; so long as it is ruled by a military dictatorship friendly to the U.S. (sound familiar, historically?) we don't want to make waves, even in the event of nuclear weaponry sales to our enemies. Think Russert will pin Bush down on this? Yeah, right.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:40 AM
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7. The newest hot fashion....
Tin Hats

Not just for the fringe, anymore....
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:42 AM
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8. Could hardly be more bizarre
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 11:46 AM by BeFree
But we may just live to see it!

Nuclear Supermarkets are all the rage these days. One can just imagine the hawkers hawk's as one strolls the aisles: "Get yer Heavy Water right here! Need a suitcase sized reactor? How about a little weapon grade plutonium?"

Meanwhile, the gang who couldn't secure a cockpit cabin door, runs around shooting it's mouth off, claiming weather balloon making machinery and model airplanes are a worldwide threat.

B..Fn...zar.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:44 AM
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9. i think this 'revelation' is intended to pre-empt a possible connection...
Between Pakistan, nukes, BCCI and... *drumroll* the Bank of England (now under investigation in relation to BCCI illegalities).

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/24appendic.htm

" 1. The extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear program. As set forth in the chapter on BCCI in foreign countries, there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear program through the BCCI Foundation in Pakistan, as well as through BCCI-Canada in the Parvez case. However, details on BCCI's involvement remain unavailable. Further investigation is needed to understand the extent to which BCCI and Pakistan were able to evade U.S. and international nuclear non-proliferation regimes to acquire nuclear technologies. "


By the time any investigation comes to this, it'll be easier to deny it since the public at large thinks it has been covered already.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:52 AM
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10. When Pakistan flips, it's gonna be really bad.
In the republican game of befriending the enemy for short term gain, Pakistan is surely one of their more deadly choices.
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