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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 12:22 PM
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Al Qaeda financier's company had FAA access, was protected by FBI.
An important new story from Daniel Hopsicker:

A company founded by a Saudi financier placed on America’s Terrorist List in October 2001 had access to the FAA’s entire computer system for two years before the 9/11 attack.

...

"Ptech had a couple of very troubling client relationships," states risk architect and whistleblower Indira Singh, "one of which was with the FAA. One of the 'persons of interest' in the investigation had a team in the basement of the FAA for two years."

...

When Singh flew to Washington D.C. to meet some of the ex-Ptech employees to verify their allegations, she received another shock. “I met with five extraordinarily scared people. These people were scared for their lives, and for their families. Some were about to leave the country. They told me, ‘Indira, you don’t know who you’re dealing with.’

Sadly, when she told us what happened next, it came as no surprise: When Singh alerted authorities, and her employer, what she encountered was the inexplicable wrath of a top Wall Street Bank, as well as an official wall of silence at the FBI.

much more:
http://www.madcowprod.com/
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 12:39 PM
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1. And watch Hopsicker's new video online.
Singh tells her story about Ptech, and a report on bin Laden's escape from Tora Bora.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 01:47 PM
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2. kick n/t
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:07 PM
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3. Jesus, BCCI, money laundering, drugs, terrorism..it is all
connected and the glue is Poppy and the shadowy part of the CIA and FBI which(I believe) he still controls to this very day. IMO, it is no small thing that heroin production is at an all time high in Afghanistan.

Bush, bin Laden, BCCI and the 9-11 Commission

-snip- The CIA uncovered the bank's criminal activities in 1981--no great feat, considering how many of its own foreign "associates" were involved, including the head of Saudi intelligence, Kamal Adham, brother-in-law of King Faisal. But, instead of stopping the drug-runners and terrorists, the agency decided to join them, using BCCI's secret channels to finance "black ops" all over the world.

When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI's operations in the late Eighties,Prseident George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. ...Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001--by George W. Bush.

The layers of complicity in this web of deceit is mind boggling and more than a little scary.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd01312003.html
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM
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15. Wow, that really spells it out
Chilling. They uncovered the BCCI/BFEE apparatus and decided "hey, why not join 'em?"
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:12 PM
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4. Now we are getting somewhere.
Man, you guys who keep track of this stuff are amazing.

What can we do to help? Any suggestions?

Thanks, ya'll.
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Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:15 PM
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6. It's all laid out here:
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:19 PM
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17. Bill and Hillary Clinton?? n/t
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:38 PM
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18. Clinton got entangled when as Governor, he
protected the CIA's cocaine and money laundering operation out of Mena.

The rot is bipartisan, and longstanding. Jackson Stephens is perhaps the best example. But many Democrats were compromised by BCCI.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 05:30 PM
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21. BCCI question
unrelated to the topic, really.

I heard something about John Kerry being heavily into the BCCI investigation in his capacity as Senator...you know anything about that, Minstrel Boy?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 07:29 PM
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25. Kerry co-chaired a Senate Committee investigating BCCI.
Here's a copy of the original report:

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/

Interesting to note this:

After it was released by the Committee, Sen. Hank Brown, reportedly acting at the behest of Henry Kissinger, pressed for the deletion of a few passages, particularly in Chapter 20 on "BCCI and Kissinger Associates." As a result, the final hardcopy version of the report, as published by the Government Printing Office, differs slightly from the Committee's softcopy version presented below.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:12 PM
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34. Didya notice ...
... that the "American Financial Corp.", "Charles Keating", "Lincoln Savings", and American Continental Corp." boxes are not linked at all to the rest of the chart?

Furthermore, the "Kissinger & Associates", "AIG", "Black Stone Group" and "Maurice Greenberg" boxes are alos not linked to the rest of the chart.

So, if they're not linked, why are they there?



Heck, why not include a "TahitiNut", "DU", and "Carl Spackler" set of boxes?? :shrug:
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:43 PM
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30. Spread the truth far and wide
write your democratic reps,
write your local paper.
Phone in to talk shows,
tell friends and neighbors
HELL!
Scream it at the top of your lungs from the highest mountain!
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:14 PM
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5. A problem....
Perhaps someone else here can toss me a theory to chew on.

I believe that the core issue here is peak oil. That all these other maneuvers and machinations stem from that single issue.

If such is the case, then it would be in the BFEE's interest to gain real control over saudi arabia, no?

If such is the case, wouldn't having the Saudi's being intrinsically linked to 9.11 aid their cause in that it would give them a viable excuse for de-stabilising the House of Saud and moving to physically occupy saudi arabia or attempt to install a regime there?

So why the moves to deflect attention AWAY from the Saudis?

Granted, the BFEE has plenty of moneymaking ties to Saud that might need to be protected, but wouldn't actual control over the oil fields be a bigger money-maker?

I keep getting the feeling that the Saudis are being hung out as a false cover. That the investigation will lead to them because a trail was laid for just such a purpose.

Anyone?
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:24 PM
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7. My understanding is that the King is quite ill, consequently,the
situation there is already quite unstable.

I am certain the BFEE has covered all their bases, ready to lay the blame on the Saudis if the heir to the throne(remember those Saudi prince deaths last summer) is not one of their liking.

I don't think my mind is evil enough to answer what you are looking for..but if there is oil and money involved you cab bet the Bush mafioso has figured out all the angles.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:32 PM
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8. Okay
So you suggest that theres a bit of a waiting game going on to see which Saudi Prince rises to the top of the froth. I can buy that. In the meantime, of course, there will be much posturing and deal-making in order to try and bring the most likely Princes into the fold even further than they already are.

OK, thinking off the cuff here....that would explain the support of the Saudis right now...because the biggest threat of all is Saudi Arabia falling and becoming an Islamic Theocracy, a la OBL....

SO...we keep the fundamentalist heat off the Saudis while we take care of business elsewhere in the ME, and while we cultivate someone who we control who can step up to the plate when old King Saud FINALLY drops. Of course, I have a feeling that the King is being kept in the same meat locker as OBL..it just isn't time yet to play that card. I mean, when was the last time anyone saw the King.

Thanks for the grist...and pardon my thiking aloud.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:38 PM
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12. Diplomacy
You can bet that deep inside the Saudi's Arabian Kingdom, the * gang is telling them that if they don't fly straight, bad things are gonna happen.

Remember the Afghan diplomacy? "Carpet of bombs, or carpet of gold"
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:45 PM
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14. Certainly plausible
But the House of Saud is in a MUCH better negotiating position than the Taliban.

i.e.: "OK, carpet bomb our fields and refineries and interrupt our production and see how fast and hard the rest of the world reacts."

or

"We are all that stands in front of islamic fundamentalist control over ALL THAT OIL...go ahead, bring it on, chimpie...I dare ya"
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 05:08 PM
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19. Yeah, much better position
And that's why we aren't occuppying SA, yet. If it can be taken over by diplomacy, then our troops won't have to go in. I'm sure the * gang has given the okay for diplomacy, for now.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 07:58 PM
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26. Kick...
:kick:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:26 PM
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27. Kick
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:35 PM
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10. I think it's the difference between strategy and tactics.
The strategy is dictated, I also believe, by peak oil, and the big picture involves eventually gaining direct control of the Saudi fields.

But tactically, they have availed themselves of the services of Saudis (as well as that of others, including, prominently, Pakistanis). The misdirection away from Saudi Arabia is not to protect their Saudi friends, but to protect themselves.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:38 PM
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11. excellent
great analysis, thanks!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:33 PM
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9. ANOTHER WOMAN WHISTLEBLOWER. Very proud.
I'm keeping that one. So many woman whistleblowers, so many more scandals.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 03:44 PM
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13. Check out this passage from Sen Graham's testamony before Congress this
week. When I read this post, it clicked in my mind something to do with the FAA and Bob Graham's testamony. I wondered if somehow our FAA had been infiltrated and somehow the codes for scrambling the AWAKS on 9/11 could have been changed so that the hijackings weren't noticed. I know this is far-fetched...but reading Hopsiker and Graham's testamony is seems Graham is alluding to far more than anyone else besides Hopsiker has even thought about putting out in the media.

Here's a snip from his report.
---------------------
Testimony from Senator Bob Graham this week:

Finally, I would like to address Recommendation No. 19 of the joint
inquiry report. This recommendation calls on ``the intelligence
community, and particularly the FBI and CIA, to aggressively address
the possibility that foreign governments are providing support to or
are involved in terrorist activity targeting the United States and U.S.
interests. The FBI and CIA should aggressively and thoroughly pursue
related matters developed through this Joint Inquiry that have been
referred to them for further investigation.''
Mr. President, this may be the most important--and at the same time,
the most troubling recommendation. Significant evidence of foreign
government involvement in the 9-11 attacks was uncovered by the joint
inquiry.
It is incomprehensible why this administration has refused to
aggressively pursue the leads that our inquiry developed. One example
of the failure to pursue leads that point to foreign government
involvement is the refusal of the FBI to aggressively follow the money
trail that flowed from officials of a foreign government to at least
some of the terrorists. In spite of being provided evidence by our
committee, the FBI and the administration refused to use all the law
enforcement tools at their disposal to follow the money trail. Why
would the administration not use all of its available powers to track
this money? In addition, the question of whether other terrorists were
getting similar support was not pursued. Therefore the extent of the
involvement of the foreign government has never been fully
investigated. Recent press reports indicate that there is even more
suspicious activity than was known at the time we issued our report.
Another example of the failure to aggressively pursue the sources of
foreign support of terrorism is reported on Page A14 of today's
Washington Post. A panel which was established by the United Nations to
pursue sources of support of al-Qaida has been disbanded. Our
government joined with Russia and Chile to sponsor a resolution at the
United Nations that disbanded the panel investigating al-Qaida's
financing.
We are talking about the possible involvement of foreign governments
in the 9-11 attacks. If a government was involved in those attacks, we
should leave no stone unturned to identify the extent of that
involvement and hold those responsible accountable. There should be no
sanctuary from justice for those involved with terrorists, no matter
who might be embarrassed by such revelations.
I wish I could be more specific in discussing the involvement of
foreign governments in the 9-11 plot. Unfortunately, the administration
will not allow me to do so. After 7 months of effort to de-classify the
report that we filed on December 20, 2002, the CIA, the FBI and other
agencies decided to keep significant portions secret. In particular,
there are 27 pages that were virtually completely censored. These are
pages 396 through 422 from Part Four of the report, which is entitled,
``Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive
National Security Matters.''
This censorship is troubling for a number of reasons. First, it
reduces the information available to the public about some of the most
important government actions--or to be more accurate, inactions--prior
to September 11. Second, it precludes the American people from asking
their government legitimate questions, such as:

Was there a reason that some, but not all, of the
terrorists were receiving foreign support while they were in
the United States?
Or is it not more likely that they were all receiving
similar support?
What evidence do we have that the infrastructure of support
that existed prior to 9-11 has been dismantled?
Or is it not more likely that such an infrastructure is
still in place for the next generation of terrorists?
How many trained operatives of al-Qaida, Hezbollah, and
other international terrorist organizations are there inside
the United States of America?
What are the skills and capabilities of these operatives?
What was the scale and skills of Iraqi operatives inside
the United States prior to the war in Iraq and at the current
date?
What was the comparative threat to the people of the United
States of Iraq and the trained agents of international
terrorists placed inside our country?
Has the number, skill set, funding or ability to avoid
disclosure of international terrorist operatives within the
United States of America been enhanced by support from
foreign governments?
How professional and aggressive have been the efforts of
agencies such as the FBI and the CIA in answering those
questions?
And, how was the information that our government might have
had prior to September 11th utilized after September 11th to
enhance the security of our homeland and American interests
abroad?


Much more from his testimony here:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_cr/graham020204.html
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 05:27 PM
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20. Great stuff Koko, thanks!

This is too big for the mis-administration to keep a lid on forever...
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:24 PM
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32. Graham was meeting with the Pakistani General...
...during the attacks, right?

What was going on there?

Is the Saudi connection a deflection instead?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 04:13 PM
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16. In Hopsicker's video, Singh says JP Morgan Chase's Chief Auditor
said, repeatedly, as she answered his questions about who supplied her with what information, "that person should be killed." Talk about intimidation.

"He basically told me to keep my mouth shut and look the other way."

This is the thanks you get in today's America for alerting a major bank to a terror threat. The message is, This is business as usual. Keep your nose out of it.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 06:26 PM
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22. The Myth Of Al Qaeda needs to be exposed
No matter the cost, whomever or whatever it tarnishes, the truth is the only thing that can save Democracy.

www.rbham.com
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 06:29 PM
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23. MI6 protected "Al Qaeda" as well...
SHAYLERGATE:
British Press Gagged on Reporting MI6's £100,000 bin Laden Payoff By Paul Joseph Watson (Updated 11th Nov.)
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/shayler_gate.html

November 11th Update - London Observer: MI6 'halted bid to arrest bin Laden'
The London Observer today confirmed the story I reported on last month. Shayler was imprisoned for 6 months for revealing British Intelligence's protection of bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.

"British intelligence paid large sums of money to an al-Qaeda cell in Libya in a doomed attempt to assassinate Colonel Gadaffi in 1996 and thwarted early attempts to bring Osama bin Laden to justice."

Full story at http://politics.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,9174,837333,00.html

On the evening of 7th October, Tony Blair ordered a D-Notice on British media reporting government officials signing court gag orders. This regards the case of former MI5 officer David Shayler, who has evidence to prove MI6 gave £100,000 to bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, arms to Iraq and had prior knowledge of several terrorist attacks on London in the 1990's. The original articles stated that top Labour MP's had signed gag orders, whereby upon mention of this evidence in court, media have to immediately leave the trial. Newspapers all over the country, including the Guardian, the London Evening Standard and the Scotsman either completely removed or amended their articles. This evidence is damning. The British government is trying to bury the story before it buries them.

I first noticed that the Guardian article I had earlier posted on my website had disappeared. Already aware that Blair may well have ordered a D-Notice to eliminate these reports, I immediately started searching on Google for some more. In Britain, a D-Notice is where the government order a gag on a particular breaking story. I came across a very similar London Evening Standard report and immediately put it on my web site. Low and behold, five minutes later the link was dead! Amazingly, I still had the article up on my screen on a different browser window. I tried to archive the page to my desktop but to no avail. I did manage to print out a copy which I have scanned and linked below.

This story is massive because Shayler has them on the wracks on a number of different issues, from colluding with bin Laden, to arms deals with questionable characters. This could be particularly embarrasing for Jack Straw, who I, using mainstream reports, have identified as a key placeman in hawking arms to Pakistan, India and even Iran. Bilderberg member Peter Mandelson is also trying to cover his dirt by gagging these reports. The London Times reported how his new 'think tank' was being bankrolled by the Rothschilds two weeks ago. The Rothschilds control the BBC, who haven't even mentioned that the trial has started, never mind the accusations Shayler raises.

more...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 07:20 PM
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24. And which was the first country to issue an international arrest warrant
for bin Laden?

"Arch terror state" Libya, in 1998, on a murder charge.

And you're right: it's imperative the myth of al Qaeda be exposed, or everything's lost.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:50 AM
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28. an early morning kick n/t
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 12:16 PM
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29. a late morning kick
Soon it will be too late, for the Patriot Act and Ashcroft's Internet storm troopers are only one more flase flag terror attack or stolen election away.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 01:34 PM
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31. Important stuff
:kick:

Nice work MB. :)
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:59 AM
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33. weekend kick
the truth will out
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:15 PM
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35. Keep this kicked till December 2004...
... and then re-kicked in January 2005 for the new Attorney General's perusal.

Thanks for the great article from Hopsicker, Minstrel Boy! The guy was fast to connect the dots, much faster than the FBI who seem intent on keeping the dots from being connected. Truth is, any dot that stands up is liable to be, uh, erased.

Tee BCCI angle is this: Proceeds raised through laundering drug money, terror trafficking, and war was used to buy influence around the world. A big chunk was used to finance the "Islamic Bomb" of Pakistan. Ghulam Ishaq Khan, the guy who now is in the news for "secretly" running the Pakistani nuke program (ask Poppy Bush what he knows), ties to BCCI and its founder, Agha Hasan Abedi. And BCCI ties bin Laden to Poppy Bush and Baby Doc Bush.

Check out what our friends in India report on their friend's news:

The secret empire of Dr Khan

Pakistan’s nuclear proliferation poses a tricky challenge


JASJIT SINGH    

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, the “father” of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme and the man who relentlessly pursued it through clandestine means and methods for decades, has finally admitted in a written statement that he oversaw its further clandestine spread to at least three other countries. Official Pakistan, which for years insisted that its nuclear weapons programme is tightly controlled and completely secure, is now claiming that nuclear trade has been made into a private enterprise by some of its national heroes! Extensive evidence has emerged in the public domain about detailed plans for enrichment of uranium for bomb making having been transferred from Pakistan to a number of countries along with a new version of a “yellow pages” directory of networks from Malaysia to Europe and North America for supply of materials and components.

What is of critical importance is not only the world’s most adventurous multinational nuclear proliferation but the reason Khan has put forward for his activities. Pakistani officials are saying that, contrary to earlier assumptions, he did not do so for money, but that he “was motivated enough to make other Islamic countries nuclear powers also” and reduce pressure on Pakistan. This may be an effort to garner public support from Islamic parties and countries. It also harks back to Bhutto’s notion of the “Islamic Bomb” for its Um’mah. The only exception known so far is the supply of nuclear weapon making technology to North Korea for strategic reasons in exchange for long-range ballistic missiles for nuclear weapon delivery.

Islamism has been deepening in Pakistan for three decades. Its concept of “strategic depth”, especially to its west, led to intervention in Afghanistan to control Kabul through covert Mujahideen operations. Strategic depth made no sense in modern conventional military terms. But in the context of Islamic jihad, as an instrument of politics by other means in Clausewitzean terms, it incorporated deadly logic, especially when the Holy Quran was invoked under General Zia ul-Haq to justify terrorism. To this has been added the strategic depth of an “Islamic Bomb” whose wherewithal is controlled by Pakistan. One look at the map would show that Pakistan’s Islamic nuclear mushroom covers the whole of West Asia with what Mansoor Ijaz terms as the “North Korean-made missiles armed with a Chinese-made nuclear device assembled in Islamabad’s nuclear labs whose fuel came from gas centrifuges sold by Pakistan’s rogue Islamists.” Small wonder Al-Qaeda, which received extensive support from Pakistan and its most radical surrogate, the Taliban, boasted it could make a “dirty” nuclear bomb.

The incontrovertible truth is that Pakistan’s nuclear programme in every aspect has been, and remains, under the firm and total control of its army at least since 1977; even its navy and air force have little role in it. Its clandestine nature relied on building a black market largely managed by trusted senior army (and ISI) officers and senior scientists in the nuclear establishment. Such people have undoubtedly been under a strong security and intelligence cover as much for their safety as to keep an eye on them. With a flourishing $2 billion-plus annual narcotics trade, and banks like the former Dubai-based Pakistani-owned “Outlaw Bank”, the BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), and the Mehran Bank to manage the black market in narcotics, nuclear trade and tools for terrorism, there was obviously no dearth of unaccounted funds for the purpose. General Aslam Beg, the army chief in late 1980s who controlled the nuclear programme, later publicly acknowledged receipt of hundreds of crores of unaccounted funds which he passed on to the ISI and President Ghulam Ishaq Khan.

CONTINUED...

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=40361
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 04:59 PM
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38. I remember that "incident" in 2002, when Bush and Co. were
banging the Iraq wardrums and the "embarrassment" of a shipment out of North Korea to Pakistan. I also remember they supposedly "inspected" the shipment and then allowed it to pass. Business as usual with the BFEE. And the press, of course, could have cared less.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:28 PM
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39. One'd think that Reagan and Poppy Bush knew, too.
... after all, when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, Carter and Brzezinski were willing to overlook a little proliferation by the Pakistanis. The same went in spades for the Reagan-Bush administrations. Seems the BFEE war party works across all sorts of political lines...

Pakistan investigates BCCI role in sale of nuclear know-how
  
Wednesday, February 04 2004 @ 06:11 PM CST

Stephen Fidler and Farhan Bokhari

The Pakistani government is examining records of the failed Bank of Credit and Commerce International in its investigation into the role Pakistani scientists may have played in selling nuclear knowhow to Iran, North Korea and Libya. According to bankers, some of whom worked with BCCI before it collapsed in 1991, Pakistani investigators have sought the help of former BCCI employees to try to uncover payments made to scientists connected with Pakistan's nuclear programme. BCCI's role in financing Pakistan's own nuclear efforts has long been the subject of scrutiny. In 1992, a report into BCCI from a US Congressional sub-committee headed by Senator John Kerry, now a leading Democratic presidential contender, said "there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear programme". Though it said the issue deserved further investigation, there was little public follow-through.

This year, however, as evidence has mounted that Pakistani scientists helped the uranium enrichment programmes of Iran, North Korea and Libya, the Pakistani government has launched an investigation. A government spokesman in Islamabad said that anybody found to have passed on secrets would be punished, but denied that the government approved any transfers. At least 11 Pakistani scientists and officials - as well as the so-called father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, Abdul Qadeer Khan - have been questioned.

BCCI helped the Pakistani government under General Zia ul Haq, the military dictator killed in a 1988 plane crash, to channel payments from the US Central Intelligence Agency to fighters seeking to oust Soviet troops from Afghanistan. Soviet troops withdrew in 1989 but former BCCI officials said the relationship for organising undocumented payments for influential Pakistanis continued until the bank's collapse. One former BCCI banker who said he organised funds transfers on behalf of senior military officers in the Zia regime commented: "I'm not surprised that the Pakistanis are now looking to put together dossiers on some of their scientists receiving payments through BCCI." He said that over the past two months, Pakistani officials had travelled to the Middle East, looking for evidence of nuclear scientists receiving payments through BCCI.

Another former BCCI banker said that establishing payments to Pakistani nuclear scientists through the bank could provide evidence about the so far undocumented role of senior former Pakistani military officers in overseeing the transfer of nuclear knowhow to other countries. The investigation has prompted speculation among western intelligence officials and diplomats over the extent to which General Zia, leader of a frontline anti-communist state, in fact sanctioned the transfer of nuclear knowhow to Iran. In the past four to eight weeks, he said the Pakistani investigators have been seeking evidence of payments made to Mohammad Farooq, one of the nuclear scientists at the centre of the investigation. Pakistani officials are said to have focused on Mr Farooq as a possible contact between the Iranians and Mr Khan.

CONTINUED... for those with an FT subscription... blm reminded me to archive this article...

http://www.pakistan-facts.com/index.php?topic=wmd-proliferation
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 02:03 PM
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40. Right from its inception, the clandestine nuclear
and missile projects in Pakistan were treated as a top secret intelligence operation of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to ensure deniability. All payments to the foreign suppliers were made not from the accounts of the Government of Pakistan, but from private accounts in the BCCI, which collapsed in 1991, and other Dubai and Geneva based banks. These accounts were opened by the Gokul brothers of Geneva, one of whom was jailed for cheating in the UK after the collapse of the BCCI, Shaukat Aziz, Pakistan's present Finance Minister, who was working in the Gulf for the Citibank in the 1990s, Dawood Ibrahim, the mafia leader who was designated by the USA as an international terrorist in October last year, Dubai-based Pakistani smugglers and A.Q. Khan and other trusted Pakistani scientists.

The financial contributions from Libya, Iran and Saudi Arabia were transferred to these accounts from numbered secret Swiss accounts and payments to the overseas suppliers were made from these accounts.

http://www.kashmirtelegraph.com/0204/nine.htm
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:39 PM
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36. More proof that links the BFEE to "Al Qaeda"...
Trillions of missing dollars from the Pentagon's budget can buy a lot of mercenari....err....terrorists.
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37. amazing. kick. n/t
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