Anyone else have a bad feeling about this 'independent' investigation?

[KuroKensaki]

The investigation into intelligence failures leading to the war in Iraq, says the administration, will be patterned after the Warren Commission, which concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination of President Kennedy.

Glad they did such a good job of that investigation, too.

The nine-member commission will be appointed by the President. Glad to see that it's going to be independent. Like when Ahnold hired a PI to investigate the charges of groping.

With everyone scrambling to cover somebody's ass, the 'official' story as I understand it goes like this--

Saddam wanted us to -think- that he had weapons of mass destruction, so he made his lieutenants do suspicious things where the UN weapons inspectors could see. So we thought he had weapons of mass destruction, so we attacked his country, destroyed his palaces, and dragged him out of a spider hole. Even though we didn't.

Occam's razor, people. Simplest explanation is usually the correct one. How about this explanation? Saddam never had weapons of mass destruction. He said to the UN "I have no weapons of mass destruction." The UN weapons inspectors said "He has no weapons of mass destruction." The CIA said "He has no weapons of mass destruction." President.. er, I mean, Vice President Cheney hired some people to say "He has weapons of mass destruction" so that he and his cadre could stage a unilateral ideological war against a dictator they once propped up but now refuses to play ball.

But of course, that explanation would implicate our leaders of perjury. And we can't have that, no--why, Presidents get impeached for perjury. Especially about BJs.

Kuro

[Homer12]

1. It's not okay for Democrats and the left to lie...

...but's it's okay for the Right and Republicans to lie, becuase they know what's best for everyone else (sarcasm alert).

Haven't we learned that yet, Shawn Hannity and Rush says it's true.

[Snow]

2. To some degree, a fixed investigation could be a good thing,

since so many people are looking for it and will blow the whistle on it. The WH gang have not shown themselves to be masters of subtlety, and this will likely be a pretty blatantly rigged investigation.

[Taeger]

3. Jon Stewarts take

Yeah, the Warren Commision really put that issue to bed ;-)

[tridim]

10. "Gentlemen, start your websites!"

TDS is always right on.

[Parrcrow]

4. Its bound to be an attempt at a whitewash

I get the impression that they are trying to get the right sycophants appointed to it. No doubt it will be huge and bury the real culprits, Rumsfeld's independant intelligence review crew at the Pentagon and Cheney's intimidation.

They'll bend over backwards to make this go away, as they are with the Valerie Plame issue.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

5. Youre right...

The commission will find some facts that will support the administration's argument and the freepers will run with this. It'll never be over. I have all about given up on justice in this country, it only goes to the highest bidder.

[sallyseven]

6. Don't underestimate the American people.

They may be slow on the uptake but they are coming around. Look at the turnout in the primary elections. Massive. They are mad.

[salinen]

9. The commissions report must wait

until after the election? So as to not signal a political motive on the facts. That makes sense. The information that is critical to a country at war will be shelved for political reasons. How about hiring a liar, to lie for the liars, so the liars won't appear as liars.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

11. I have no doubt about the American people...

my point was that there are some folks in this country that are hopping mad (ME!), but there are others that will blindly accept what their leaders tell them, without benefit of all the facts.

My major agreement with the original poster was that if the powers that be want to bury the facts about an event, they can effectively do so. Look at the Warren Commission, what have they found, really? Its almost 40 years now, were still no closer to finding out who really killed Kennedy than we were on that day in Dallas. Another example was Iran/Contra. Do we know what happened? Who was involved, and to what extent was the Pres. in on the fun? I still have folks of a repub. bent arguing with me about the "fuzzy" facts surrounding I/C.

Sally, I applaud you standing up for the American people. We need all the positive voices we can get. Keep it up.

[truthspeaker]

7. screw an investigation, the information is right out in the open!

Remember when journalists used to investigate things? Ah, the good old days.

[banana republican]

8. The Hutton Report appears to be self destructing

especially since the spooks are publicly disclosing the Big Lie.

[DrBB]

12. I've decided I'm not upset about this

Look, you don't need an "investigation" to know that shit floats downstream. There's nothing an "investigation," independent or otherwise, hobbled or not, 18-month or 5-minute, is going to find out that isn't patently obvious. I won't even waste my time listing all the sources that show how laughable this whole claim that "The CIA made us do it!" is.

This bogus, Bush-controlled "investigation" is worse news for the right than it is for us. The reichpundits are already floundering--did you see Hoagland's complete, embarrassing 180 in the WaPo? He's trying to toe the party line, blame the CIA for poor innocent W's (and Cheney's) mistakes, but there it is, from last year: his own article crowing about how the Adults are forcing the feckless, cautious, wrong-headed CIA to acknowledge the "truth" about Iraq. The Post was so mortified, they actually pulled the earlier article, and then got caught and had to put it back up again.

Where this hurts the most? Not among the pundits and the apparatchiks who have to echo the talkingpoints or know Rove's wrath. Nope. It's going to hurt their base. The poor benighted, yet sincere believers who have held on and held on. Some may use the "investigation" as a way to pretend they don't know what they know. But they'll still know it, as will many more who will be able to admit it (we've seen some of 'em come over to DU in just the last few days). This is a leech that is going to suck the life out of 'em. Not as quickly or dramatically as we like. But they are bleeding. And the "investigation" by its mere existence is a tacit admission that they LIED, that they FUCKED UP and don't have any more smarmy, smug answers. They are down to damage control, and there are big limitations to what they can do.