Forget AWOL Bush* - Investigate 9-11 and Bush* War Crimes

[Q]

- The Bush* Team has long ago scrubbed any incriminating evidence regarding his military service to make sure no 'smoking gun' reaches the public. It may be an 'interesting' subject...but it won't influence the 2004 election in any meaningful way.

- Let's not get distracted from the most important issues facing this nation: 9-11 and the resultant preemptive wars against countries that posed no threat to our security.

- The Bush* administration has made every effort to obstruct investigations into 9-11 and coverup the relationship between the terrorists, Saudi Arabia and the Bush family business connections.

- We also need to fight against the Republican talking points suggesting that even many Democrats believed Saddam had WMD. We must point out that Bush* took the unprecedented step of invading an occupying a country based on a 'belief' and not evidence.

- The AWOL issue is going nowhere fast. Let's get back to the more important issues of war, life, death and the many lies of the Bush* administration.

[indepat]

1. Sadly, it seems those who rabidly support the neocon cause are not curious

in the least as to the events leading up to and surrounding 9-11 for did it not give the President his "trifecta?"

[Q]

3. Americans deserve to know...

...why and how 9-11 and preemptive wars happen. This goes way beyond partisan politics.

[BOSSHOG]

2. We should not only keep AWOL alive and well

we should add bush's insider trading at Harken to the list of things they have to defend. Make them defensive on all issues, especially 9-11, WMD lies, Plame outing and cheney's energy task force. The more they have to account for, to be defensive about, to keep juggled in the air the better. Counter what they have to be defensive about with bush's claim of honor and integrity. After gillespies pitiful performance on crossfire yesterday I don't think they believe AWOL is just an interesting subject.

[Q]

4. AWOL distracts from the very issues that could...

...bring the Bush* government to its knees. Yes...it's important for Americans to know that their CIC and great war hero Bush* lied about his service record...but we concentrate on it at the risk of losing grip on the more important issues of an unexamined 9-11 and preemptive wars against countries that pose no threat to our nation.

[BOSSHOG]

5. bush gives us too much ammunition

We can't let it remain unexpended. As you say, all these issues are non-partisan; and all together they portray a man not suited for the office he holds. The issues enhance and feed off one another. Its bad enough that our kids are dying because a man lied, but the man who lied has, at best, a dubious military record of his own. The same man ensures the rich profit from his economic policies while in the past he profited from dubious business practices. A man who promised to bring honor and integrity back to the white house doesn't want Americans to know what is happening in the white house. Yes, lets ensure 9-11 and WMD and Iraq are the entree but just take a gander at the side dishes.

[Karenina]

8. MAN THE WATER CANNONS!!!

Quite a number are needed to control the fires *cabal has set.

What BOSSHOG said! :toast:

I don't agree that the AWOL issue is a "distraction." It WILL elicit a visceral response in those who have experience with the military. That old "meritocracy" myth is deeply ingrained in the American psyche.

[ninkasi]

10. I agree

I think we can keep all of the issues front and center; we're angry enough, and disgusted enough, to point out all of his many, many flaws. He has lied about everything, and broken every promise he ever made. He is clearly unsuitable to being the president.

I think all of his faults kind of weave themselves together, and present * as an arrogant, cowardly, lazy, greedy, sniveling, smirking spoiled rich kid who never had to grow up.

[rocktivity]

6. If Bush wants to bury AWOL, let him unearth his records.

The Bush Team is stonewalling with nothing more than moral indignation. We've got records and facts. It's standard operating procedure for politicians to open their military records--why hasn't he? If Bush wants to put an end to it, that's all he has to do--not that we should believe anything he says at this point.


rocknation

[Ganja Ninja]

7. Why not do all three and more?

I'm not inclined to give Bush a free ride on anything.

[Terwilliger]

9. where do you get this stuff??

- Let's not get distracted from the most important issues facing this nation: 9-11 and the resultant preemptive wars against countries that posed no threat to our security.

What evidence do you have to suggest that the main thrust by the Democratic party in this election is 9/11 and foreign wars? It's CLEAR that voters are NOT voting on these issues. I've also heard little IF ANYTHING about who may or may not have been behind 9/11 from Dems, because you KNOW they won't bring up LIHOP.

So...what do you mean? Get back to what?

No, Bush needs to be attacked where he's weak. This issue of where he was for a year is just the prickly thorn Dems should be throwing at him the rest of the year.

[DemSigns]

11. Bush is weak in those issues

we just have to keep out in front with media. We can't concede those issues.

[Terwilliger]

13. Bush is weak on AWOL...he's not really touched by 9/11 yet

and the Democrat won't bring up any 9/11 related issue...they wouldn't dare question Bush's motives

His leadership they might question in roundabout ways, but even Kerry would not bring anything that people don't already know.

[Terwilliger]

12. wassamatter, Q?

answer?

[Q]

14. Bush* is MOST vulnerable on 9-11 and Iraq...

...and the rwing media is actually pleased to have something to report on other than those things that could weaken Bush's* 'war' powers.

- Republicans and Centrists don't give a shit if Bush* went AWOL. After all...most of them still think Saddam was behind 9-11.

- I'm not suggesting AWOL isn't an important issue. What I AM suggesting is that any incriminating evidence related to his absence without leave was 'disappeared' even before the 2000 (s)election.

- That the Left has so few media resources means we need to concentrate on the most important issues and hammer them home.

[Malva Zebrina]

15. all the issues are indeed important

but AWOL is Bush's very own. He cannot blame the CIA, the FBI, Clinton, or Saddam. He stands naked before the world on that issue and many people are shocked when they hear he did not show up for service during war time. There are other things about AWOL that are also potentially devasting to Bush--the grounding, the Bath connection, his daddy's influence, the pushing of others back further in line while becoming first because of his daddy and things like that.

We will have to wait a little while for the full scandal of 9-11 to come to the forefromt, as well as the lies about Saddam and the WMD. They are indeed crimes, but we need to keep ratcheting up the evidence and I think we are just in the beginning stages. The AWOL charge is a little, delicious icing on the cake,and adds to the despicable record of abuses and crimes of this man who began his whole presiduncy illegally, with arrogance and without shame.

[justsam]

16. i believe that everyone

whom voted Democrat in 2000 will vote again plus many young people that have turned 18 since 2000.. Most Dem's feel cheated from the 2000 ele.. there are also thousands of 18-26 yr olds that are getting nervous about a draft. they know that our military is stretched thin and there will be a draft if Bush is re-elected, Bush is just too arrogant to make any friends, even high-schoolers can see that, they also know that Cheney,Rummy have other countries on their hit list and the enlistees just aren't coming in. The N Guard and their families are Po-ed and many of them will vote Dem instead of GOP.. it's just my opinion but I don't think Bushs gang can even fix this election so that he can win.. I am one of the few Dems where i live and even the GOP is talking about voting Dem regardless of who the candidate is.. New bumber sticker i saw ,, I'm voting Democrate, I can't afford to be GOP anymore

[Cocoa]

17. AWOL is not distracting anyone

even for Michael Moore, it's not a major issue, he writes much more about Sept. 11.