So an Ass shot on NYPD is less offensive than a Boob shot on CBS!

[trumad]

The hypocrisy of the FCC is simply amazing!

[wvnatv]

1. At least the warn the viewers before airing the show.

[trumad]

4. OK...but what if the network didn't know it was going to happen?

[wvnatv]

6. Then in that case

that would be a problem. The network should be punished for it. Of course I don't let my daughter or son watch that show.

[Goldmund]

2. I think the very idea that nudity is offensive

is idiotic.

[lumpy]

12. "I think the very idea that nudity is offensive"

is idiotic. It depends how that nudity is presented. Ripping a woman's bodice is an indication of violence. What might be titilating to some might be offensive to others.

[Mandate My Ass]

28. That's a distinction

very few people here "get." The argument is being framed here is that if you're not OK with what happened you're uptight about nudity. Far from it. I am repulsed by acts of sexual violence and misogyny no matter if they are obviously staged.

[Goldmund]

36. Fine, but...

...people in this forum are comparing it to an "ass shot on NYPD blue" and other instances of nudity, not other instances of misogyny. Besides, I'm not even convinced that this falls into the category of "misogyny", since both parties were more than willing. Cheesy yes, but the quality of their "music" offends me way more than the boobie popping.

[Shrek]

3. But isn't NYPD Blue rated TV-14?

The network makes it clear that it's not meant for children.

What rating did the Super Bowl carry?

[Kremer]

5. WHO CARES!

[Shrek]

7. I care!

Had I been forewarned about the nature of the halftime show I would have made sure my son was watching something else. I have decades of experience watching televised sports, and I wasn't prepared for what we saw.

[wvnatv]

8. I agree

[DrWeird]

9. Do you let your kid read National Geographic?

Or watch the Discovery Channel?

[wvnatv]

11. No they don't

We don't get national geographic and I know they don't watch the discovery channel.

[DrWeird]

You're ducking the question.

If you had a subscription to National Geographic, would you let them read it. (it's got boobies you know).

If you wouldn't, then Lord help your kids.

[wvnatv]

14. That would be presented in a different context

Showing tribal women in every day life is different than singing a song referring to ripping off clothes and actually doing it.

[davidinalameda]

18. welcome to DU

are you in West Virginia

[wvnatv]

25. used to live there

I moved to Wisconsin. I just didn't change my username.

[DrWeird]

21. Oh, I see.

So it would be OK with you if TV showed Janet Jackson walking around the house topless doing her chores.

But it would not be acceptable for National Geographic to show pictures of topless women dancing in fertility celebrations.

Gotcha. Wouldn't want to think you're a hypocrite or anything.

[wvnatv]

24. That's not what I said

I said it is ok for national geographic to show those pictures. The pictures shown in that magazine represent a different culture and way of life. Showing Janet Jackson parading around her house topless while doing chores is not an acceptable standard to be shown on regular tv. That would belong on cable.

[theboss]

30. It's his bloody choice

It's not your job to tell him what his kids should or should not see. If he doesn't want his kids seeing naked breasts, that's his right as a parent. It shouldn't be thrust in his face, beacuse you think it's cool to "freak out the squares" or something.

[lumpy]

16. National Geo has "boobies'?

Of what generation are you a member? I know you are pushing buttons, but it's not amusing.

[lumpy]

15. National Geographic isn't in show biz.

The magazine is not devoted to depicting sexual fantasies. That is left up to Howard Stern and sex mags. Some people are prone to believe that sex has to be dirty or covert to be enjoyed.

[SemperEadem]

31. how strange

the first face to skin exposure that a baby has is with it's mother's breast

[kitkatrose]

10. Uh...Halftime has always been kinda sleazy

and increasingly moreso in the last few years. As an aside, what did you think about the erectile dysfunction ads? As it pertains to your son, I mean.

[Shrek]

13. I'd have to disagree with that one

I've seen every Super Bowl since IV, and none of them had a halftime show comparable to the one this year.

As for the erectile dysfunction ads -- those weren't much of an issue. Few, if any, even mentioned what the drug is for; mostly the ad just said "ask your doctor if a free sample is right for you" or something to that effect. And even if the words "erectile dysfunction" were spoken I doubt my son would have the slightest idea what medical ailment those words connote (IOW, to him it's just another meaningless pharmaceutical advertisement).

[kitkatrose]

23. Okie dokie. I do agree that this year's half time was over the top.

N/t

[Pathwalker]

17. Having seen those many bare asses on NYPD Blue,

Jimmy Smits is still my favorite. If the children are that shocked by the presence of a "boob" on TV, just tell them it's a baby milk factory - oh wait, we would bomb it then. I know, tell them it's an UDDER!

[John BigBootay]

22. This is the "right way" to articulate on this matter...

I have an extremely liberal perspective on the human body-- I am not personally offended, humiliated, made uncomfortable or otherwise insulted by seeing pretty much anything.

HOWEVER!!!!

I respect the fact that others may not share my point of view.

Therefore, I side with those who voice a certain outrage at this unanticipated display. From what I understand, CBS was caught unawares here and it was the MTV producers who are at fault . They should be reprimanded, fired or held accountable in some way.

[davidinalameda]

19. think about it

what's his name's old fat ass or Janet Jackson's perky breast

which is more "exciting" for lack of a better word

[zbdent]

20. Actually, you saw more in the ad about "Two and a Half Men"

If you recall, there was a woman who reached up and exposed her (illegal in Florida) thong-clad ass. Okay, it was more like a piece of spaghetti.

[trumad]

27. And were not even talking about the violence on TV..

Anybody watching "24" lately? How about the Shield.

[EV1Ltimm]

26. An ass-shot on NYPD is ground-breaking, but...

a boob shot during the superbowl is unspeakably evil. Unless it's a shot of the side of a boob on NYPD, then it's a momentous occasion for television.

I'm sure janet is loving the press she is receiving from the upset prudes.

[theboss]

29. The difference is the expectation

If I am watching NYPD Blue or the MTV Music Awards or South Park, I have no right to be offended by anything. I'm told going in, "Prepare yourself for groundbreaking television where taboos are shattered."

When I watch the halftime show at the Super Bowl, I expect Up With People, the Grambling Marching band, and people dressed like puppets.
I don't expect titties to be flopping in the breeze.

It would be like watching Sesame Street and finding Big Bird dry-humping Snuffalupagus or something. (Okay, maybe not that extreme but close).

Look, I like "edgy" material. But I like to have some advanced warning. I mean, I never played "Straight Outta Compton" when my ten-year-old cousin was in the car for a reason.

[trumad]

32. Oh for God Sakes people!

It was one boob and the nipple was covered by a "Borg" object. Are we serious here? You're offended by this? Your kids are ruined by this? It's one Boob for Christ Sakes!

America..the land of the prudes!

[wvnatv]

33. Post #28 has it right

[theboss]

34. I wasn't offended

But it doesn't mean I think it was right.

I hate it when Right-Wing Christians force prayers on me at every public event. I hated it when Right-Wing whackos showed up at my college graduation and thrusted picture of dead fetuses in my face, because Clinton was the speaker.

By the same token, I hate it when Left-Wing artists and activists decide to push their agendas in my face just because it's cool or radical. If I had kids, it should be my choice when and in what context they see naked women and Justin Timberlake sticking his crotch in someone's ass. I should be aware of this ahead of time.

It's not being a prude; it's being polite.

[Shrek]

38. Exactly!

Suppose that instead of Janet and Justin, we'd gotten a sermon from Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell instead (with no warning ahead of time).

There'd be plenty of wailing about that around here, I guarantee it.

You've absolutely nailed it; it's nothing more than simple courtesy to be mindful of people's expectations.

[yankeedem]

39. Why would you assume

that Timberlake and Jackson are expressing a left-wing viewpoint?

I think that this actually expresses a right-wing viewpoint, a white man ripping the clothes off of a black woman.

It isn't cool or radical, in fact it is so 1850's.

But in reality, who cares about these two rich superstars? 30 or so US soldiers were sent home in "transfer tubes" last week in needless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those soldiers combined won't receive the column inches that Janet Jackson's old breast got yesterday and today.

[theboss]

35. It's times like these I can see why conservatives hate liberals

We bitch and moan when they talk about God or prayer in School or do anything to thrust their values on us.

But then, we turn around and have no problem calling them prudes and telling them they should be forced to watch naked women dance across the tv screen.

[trumad]

37. The point is:

If this happened on TV across the big pond nary a word would be said about it... Only in the Freedom loving America that we make such a big deal about it.

Yes...we are Prudes!

[EV1Ltimm]

40. self deleted

[spanone]

41. Well you see the tit shot happened on the family show "Superbowl"

you know where two teams get together and beat the living shit out of each other for an hour. God forbid we inject sex into our violence, that would be truly indespicable.

[Plaid Adder]

42. My take on this from the column my computer ate:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1083010#1083924

Sigh,

The Plaid Adder

[tinanator]

43. Think of the children!

You know, the ones who have never gotten on the internet...