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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:23 AM
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Cover of NewsWeek is awesome!!!











Who would have believed that this type of coverage about the bush* cabal would have been possible a year ago??
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:27 AM
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1. Fire them all!!
Hold them accountable for their failures. They not only got it wrong, we know they knew it was wrong and went forward with their lame excuses for war anyway. Clean house and kick them all out.

Sonia
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:27 AM
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2. Good Point--The Media were all wrong, too
If they'd even tried to look at both sides to this story instead of mass marketing the war, maybe there wouldn't have been one.


rocknation

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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:29 AM
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3. Amen
What is Fox News saying? Are they calling all the other media outlets traitors?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:30 AM
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5. absolutely
I have long maintained that the media should be held accountable in this tragic fiasco. They acted as enablers for the Bush cabal, without which the war would not have been possible.

They should be included when the war crimes charges are read in the Hague.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:45 AM
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23. They were not only wrong too: they were shameless shills
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:30 AM
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4. any mention of OSP in the article?
I am betting not....
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:34 AM
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6. They should put photos of the Iraqui children who were killed and maimed
on the cover along with their amoral faces.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:35 AM
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7. Responsibilty Shared ...
is responsibilty diminished.

Color me wrong but this whole Iraq affair has been a farce that even the French could not enjoy. But for the Shrub to say he is not somehow responsibile because of faulty intelligence insults everyone.

But then again ... what do I expect? Duty? Integrity? Honor?

Oh why am I even asking?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:52 AM
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10. ...Responsibility Denied
I am starting to enjoy the pissing match developing against two stubborn forces...the media and this regime...over whose responsible for the large scale lies that are now starting to unravel.

The war is a perfect example...the Media already assumes it's been duped and is covering its ass should Iraq turn into the Vietnam mess some of us who were sucking oxygen in the 60's and early 70's vividly remember. People are getting angry and the polls at the networks and in Rove's war-room are showing this, and now it's getting "in-front" of the blame game.

The media is starting to point it's electronic nose at a question many of us at DU have complained about since Day One of this illegimate regime...it's inability to assume any responsibility for its actions and to deflect all blame on things that go wrong on its political enemies...most notably Democrats.

In the terror scare of 9/11 that turn the media into Rove's propaganda machine, any questioning of this regime's responsibilty or motives was out of bounds and Clinton made a convenient scapegoat that seemed to work just fine. When that vein tapped out then it went to attacks on individuals...such as the Wilson/Plame affair, and looks like it's about to get a lot dirtier. Are we surprised?

I'm hoping the first time this Kommander In Oxygen Thief takes responsibility for something he doesn't want to is in his consession speech. If not, we're in for 4 very, very, very difficult years.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:40 AM
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8. You're being suckered if you don't see the framing here, CIA was right
There were a lot of reports that there was no credible evidence of

wmd nor 9/11 connections
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:51 AM
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9. A suggestion
for a Moveon. Org ad. Mr. President* you owe the world an apology.For the 523 dead American young men and women. For the uncounted dead Iraqi civilians. For the hundreds of thousands of lives changed forever.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:55 AM
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11. But..we all were not wrong....
millions marched in the streets against the war. Even many Congressmen were not wrong. They were wrong. We were right. Please don't let them include us in their statement, "We were all wrong".
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:55 AM
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12. I want to see this cover:
Headline: "They Were All Right."

Picture: War protestors.

Let's give credit where credit is due.


Cher
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:57 AM
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13. Heh
good one, CHer. I would also settled for the same collage with the headline, "We Lied"
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:01 AM
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14. Now that is
an excellent idea :bounce:
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:12 AM
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19. yes! also Hans Blix, Scott Ritter, Gerard Schroeder, Putin,
whoever the French PM was, all the MILLIONS of people who said Iraq was not a grave enough threat to justify war!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:19 AM
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21. My local rag ran: War Foes Vindicated
It's not the NYTimes but it's based in a very republican area.

http://www.delcotimes.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10890751&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=8

The former chief weapons inspector in Iraq acknowledged this week that Saddam Hussein may not have been stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, fueling growing controversy about the unreliability of U.S. intelligence and buoying peace activists in their continued calls for an end to the yearlong war.

"It is a confirmation of what those of us in the peace movement have been saying since the beginning," said Terry Rumsey, co-chair of Delaware County Wage Peace and Justice. "On one hand, this really isn’t a breakthrough, new revelation. Most of the world knew there weren’t any weapons of mass destruction all along."

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:19 PM
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28. Your post gave me goose bumps.
"Headline: "They Were All Right."

Picture: War protestors.

Let's give credit where credit is due."

I would dance in the streets if that was the cover of Newsweek. Your idea is spot on.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:02 AM
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15. hmmm...
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:04 AM
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16. Perfect dart board material!
Now I just need to assign point values.
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LastRobot Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:06 AM
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17. no, its not really awesome
Don't y'all get it yet? Bush & friends are trying to make it that "we" were wrong -- meaning everyone from Dubya to the little old lady who lives down the street from me to YOU.

Hey, if you were just as wrong as Bush, it is not a problem, huh?

Sorry for the sarcasm, don't know any other way to say this right now.

First it is that Bush is trying to redefine his fiscal mess as "strong govt." and now its that "we were all wrong". Soon it will be that we forced him to take an action he didn't want to engage in. Watch him blame Kerry in the debate for the Iraq debacle.

I really hope that I'm wrong, am just being cynical and that reality completely defies me and tears Bush down and makes him fall face first into the fecal mess he's made.
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:09 AM
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18. That's not how I took it.
But I do have a liberal filter through which I see things, so I suppose it is possible that others may interpert it how you're saying.

But when I saw all the faces (including Pres* Bush) I got the impression that the faces (not the pubic) were saying "We were all wrong."
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LastRobot Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:14 AM
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20. start listening to what the Bushies are saying
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 10:15 AM by LastRobot
I hear you, I have a liberal filter too. However, the Bushistas are going around saying "we all were wrong". I just get the feeling they want to include all Americans on the blame.

Don't have an exact source, but I've heard Bushistas several times on the big 3 news nets saying "we" with the implication that its America in the we.

They'll try to blame those of us who were against the war too.

Up is down, wrong is right, war is peace. :-(
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:10 PM
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25. If that's what Bushco is saying, I hope public won't buy that message!
If Bushco really is trying to blame their their jingoistic agenda on the American public being "wrong" about the WMD, hopefully the public won't buy that obnoxious argument.

As more facts come out, the public will be looking for a place to point their finger. If they find it already pointing at them by this administration, I am pretty sure they will see the stupidity in that logic and try to figure out who's really to blame. The answer is crystal clear once you start digging.

I think that front page covers like this Newsweek will get people digging for answers.

And finally, you are right about everything being backward with this administration's logic and agenda. I am perhaps more optimistic (naive?) that the public will eventually see through it. Nobody likes getting screwed.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:25 AM
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22. I agree with you
They want to paint this now as, at worst, a failure of good intentions on their part, when we all know damn well that it was nothing of the sort. Bush was bragging obscenely to US Senators back in March 2002, "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out!" It's obvious to anyone with half a brain they never intended NOT to invade Iraq. The WMD's were just an excuse, no different from the "Saddam was a bad guy" excuse we keep hearing now. Their arrogance tripped them up, because they assumed the WMD's would actually be there to back them a little bit.

I, too, do not see that cover as a positive thing, because it's another lie. "WE ALL LIED" would make me happy.

Dirk
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:13 AM
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24. They forgot to add : "And We ALL Lied to the Public"
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:15 PM
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27. saddam included?
I know why Saddam is on the cover, but it is ironic that actually he was the only one that was right. He said he had no WMDs.

Maybe Newsweek could have put a little thought bubble over his head: "I told you so."

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:24 PM
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29. Glad I scrolled...
I thought the same thing--why is Saddam on the cover?

The slimeball turned out to be right--'They're lying about WMDs, so they can get my oil!!'
More or less what he told the self-righteous Gunga 'Dan' Rather on the 'eve' of war...
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:15 PM
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26. This is a classic cover - worthy of Watergate type honors
Mark it as the beginning of the end of Bush II.

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Rabbit of Caerbannog Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:38 PM
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30. Actually "WE are all...
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:55 PM
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31. Photoshop Rocks! (n/t)
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