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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:11 AM
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Who is really responsible for all this Terrorism?
This unending war on terror, leads me to wonder, what intent rules
the hearts of men claiming to be our betters. These men claim the
divine right of kings to, with a proclamation, threaten a population
with fear, and sort of feed off it. They form collectives of power
to rule the population beyond any concept of democratic
participation, it is majority rules, pure and simple. It strikes me
in the true plurality of the complex country, it is those who
threaten violence with big armies and speakers, who terrorize. The
television set is the terrorist weapon of ideal. It wages psychological
war against the population. The television remote
switches infinite content, and in that diverse complexity, the population's
attention is distracted. Wouldn't it seem obvious to
any reasonable person, that sitting for hours in front of a tube
would cause cognitive dissonance? The army goes in the streets, and
the television shows reruns of Doctor Zhivago. One, dissonant from
another. The civilian dead from the war in Afghanistan was greater than
in the world trade center attacks, people who were afraid as
bullets from gunships and an arsenal that is fucking spooky.

Somebody here published a video taken from an AC130 puff dragon
airship on DU, has anyone a link to this? It is rather hard proof
that what we've called a war of justice on this soil, was a Vulcan gun
in the night mowing down an entire tribe of men as they ran in
absolute terror for their lives. A man who would claim to wage a
war on terror by using such means is dissonant. A government that
is using such means is dissonant. To claim the righteousness of
2000 pound bombs as satellite guided goodwill, the US military lies indicted.

American generals once proposed using nuclear weapons on north north
china, in the historic kokorea, greater Korean people. The USA, in 1947
or 8(date!) flew a bomber wing over Russia. That is use of preemptive
terror. IMAGINE the public fear in America, were a full scale Russian
bomber wing during a nuclear threat time, flying straight in to
your airspace would be interpreted by the USA?
Or, for that matter being threatened with Nuclear weapons. By an army really planning
to deliver them. IMAGINE the power of military terror we've
already used to provoke countries in to cold wars, terror wars and drugs
wars. How would the residents of Los Angeles
feel with a 2000 pound bomb hitting a neighborhood? A country
claiming the right to use such means to "eradicate" terror is
truly missing the point of a war on terror, as it is moral war, a
war of justice, as truly "a jihad"

It is a revolution of justice against terror. Please take your army
away. Why is your army here, why must it be seen. To put the army
in to the street, to talk about it, to ram down the public gob a
WAR... a WAR for gods sake, Every gun in the street is a public icon
of that ill will. The guns are deployed in violation of the very
constitution itself. It is an illegal putting of soldiers in my
homestead. The public media have come in to every room with soldiers
and quartered them on my television set. If that is a
victory in a war on terror, then who ate the constitution.

To win a war on terror, *you* love. You give a gift to your enemy.
Flowers, Chocolates. You become wise and generous knowing that life
is only too short. You apply justice for all, and the real terror
in America, is to be disenfranchised and poor. To have no choice
but to endure government sponsored soldiers in the street, with guns
to fight the drugs war and all these wars involve a misunderstanding
of standing down the militia. A war on terror is to have no person
in the society feeling terror. The people in charge must surrender
terror as its right against its people. In IAI, the Japanese sword
drawing art. The sword stays sheathed. The weapon is NEVER EVER
drawn. If it comes out, the person drawing it is bound by a sacred
oath to surrender violence in their heart. Real warfare is
nonviolence. It is putting down your sword and using other arts
like goodwill to wards achieving the ends of war.

How a bunch of people claiming to be of a military discipline, yet
vacuously missing the code of arms. Dropping a 2000 ton bomb
on anyone is terrorism. The real hero's are those who in the light of
the threat of terror extend nonviolent goodwill. That is the samurai's
art in modern society... slashing about with the chopper
was of course preliminary, as in iai, it is fighting with the bloody
thing after all. Yet, the sword is only the projection of the will
to kill.

And with it, the intent to kill. Murder, brakes a barrier of
dissonance, as once it is broken the moral barrier to doing again is
not there anymore. The first murder is the hardest. Sending
someone to their deaths is a murder. Civil government does not murder,
it stands down. The sword is sheathed. Using violence and suppression
to suppress violence is dissonant. The bee sting kills
not by its poison, but by the reaction. Terrorists use unconventional
warfare to cause a ruckus, and the army dumps out in
to the streets of the entire roman empire, costing billions that
would so much be better spent on chocolates and flowers for all the
people we love in the world. The gentlemen need to stand down, and
not use hate and terror on anyone. A swords-person who is not a
gentle loving person for every living human on this earth, who does
not respect the sanctity of life, is not a warrior, and certainly no
samurai.

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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:15 AM
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1. Ok as iam putting on my flameretardent underwear heres my opinoinsummedup
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:15 AM
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3. reposing simulacrum
I postulate the same immage, with as many people, except they ill say AFGANI, SAUDI, CHECHEN, TURKISH, KURDISH, SHIIITE, PAKISTANI, INDIAN, KOREAN it would be shaped like Afganistan, palestine, saudi, iraq put together, showing the result of goodwill-with explosives. a deliberate act of military goodwill to make a point, with the flourish of a historians pen, and they are dispatched.

Killing twice as many made no greater good. It celibrated the death of a friend, by the murder of another. It really was not much of a step up.

The image represents two things. That those towers contained people from nations all over the world, assembled working in peaceful goodwill whilst they were standing, and the monument that we erected to celibrate our love for those died: was a mass murder! and now an occuption of states and peoples against international law? That is no civil act, and our children are deprived of 87 billion because of it, citizen.

Ya killed the varmits, seeded the nest for the reemergence of much more threatening varmits, like nuclear armed islamic republics, were pakistan to have troubles. I challenge you to one thing. If you knew someone who died in those towers, only you, who knew them in any way. What would they have wished on death that be done to celibrate the spirit of what they lived for? The airplanes struck at john gault!!! this is war!!! *LOVE* is that word.

The propaganda image of we is also endemic to the picture, depending on audience. Some people with american citizenship might feel indignant, like "it wan't you who was raped." Yet killing more people is no reply of justice. It is just a responding act of terrorism. Unwise use of arms creates blowback. chalmers ..? Violence starts and ends in the heart. The war is a media illusion, photographic identity politics. I'd also like a version of those towers with one dot for every dead person, like 2802 red dots, representing the deaths of 2802 human beings and a lotta property damage.

Use of the threat of terror (even on television, in terror alerts) achieves no justice in any war. Engagement and goodwill can only be spreading democracy.

I imagine a world of millions of red dots, 6 billion, who are directly or indirectly thretened by the police state and its ungoverned vermit shooting and fiscal ineptitude. The dots keep rubbing out... american service people... 87 billion on AIDS treatment would have put the disease in to total remission... The opportunity cost of mass murdering another number over and again, is the end to terrible suffering...

If i'm supposed to feel antipatriotic for being upset over mass
murders of people in afganistan, how can any civil being not be seriously disturbed about that as a soution from a state claiming to support justice. The justice rule is: eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye.... repeating forever state terrorism and violence.

Stand down ye and put ye weapons down, coming together in peace and goodwill.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhh!! inhale.

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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:10 AM
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2. It is difficult to deny, if one's mind not yet completely dissonant
that those who would send our young men and women to die in a war under false pretenses under false pretenses of "terror" and "weapons of mass destruction," are so morally indifferent to the innocent lives destroyed in their wars as "collatoral damage," and who show such blatant disregard for the well-being and safety of their own citizens are not in some way party to the events that have triggered this War of Terror.

In a crime investigation, the first evidence to look for is always a motive. Given how the power-hungry elites in the neocon cartel and their corporate cronies have profited so much politically and financially from Sept 11, it would seem we have our motive.

These people are completely heartless. Utterly soulless. They are pure evil. There is nothing, no single act, no matter how reprehensible that they are incapable of.

MIHOP or LIHOP? An old topic, I know. This has been thrown back & forth on DU for over two years now. I personally have come to believe that if the scoundrels in the neocon cartel did not directly mastermind the crashing of those planes into the buildings, they almost certainly had prior foreknowledge that they used to manipulate events to their advantage. What else would explain, in retrospect, how their agenda was put through so quickly? Why else would they be so intent on keeping the official records a secret?

They are the true terrorists. And they are capable of absolutely anything. I am truly beginning to fear what will happen as the American populace finally wakes up and their collective neo-fascist backs are to the wall in late 2004. Those of us who confidently predict Democratic victory and see this as unfolding as a normal Presidential election may be in for a rude awakening. Chances are, it's not going to any fun for the rest of us either.

I often wonder to myself if I'm not crazy for thinking this. I wonder if I'm not delusionally paranoid for having strong reservations about even posting what I've just written. For fearing that the wrong eyes might read it or I'll be flamed even by my fellow progressives. Yet it's becoming more difficult to be silent, to not sound the alarm. I pray to whatever Gods there may be that I'm wrong, but the more I see, read, and learn the harder it becomes to disregard such "conspiracy theories."
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:39 AM
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4. sacred cows and empire
The military is a sacred cow. People are brainwashed. Every armed soldier is NOT a school. Every bomb is NOT an AIDS clinic. The sacred cow is not holy, yet for a secular culture, the religion of military worship and honour elevation, amongst democrats nevertheless, is strong and developing. Timocracy is alive and well in the empire.
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