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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:32 AM
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Military families speak out....
Maybe this site has been posted before, I don't know. I'm just so "gutted" with anger and sorrow over all of the things this administration has pulled and/or fouled up.

There are protest pics on this site; pics that do NOT get seen in the media. Pics that shrubya obviously doesn't see. So let the people see it and read the words..... :grr: and :cry:


http://www.mfso.org
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:46 AM
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1. It's getting too big to ignore
The Good Ship Rove is developing lots of huge cracks - too many and too large to keep plugged. I don't think the Ricin scare is going to distract people for very long. They might be forced to trot OBL out ahead of schedule, is which case they'll be left scrambling for an October Surprise.

Finally, once our nominee is chosen and the mano-a-mano race starts, the media whores won't have 6 Dems to kick around 24/7, and will have to start reporting on dead soldiers, unemployed Americans, Anthrax attacks, AWOL, and so on. I think we're going to have a good summer.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:50 AM
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3. They might just kick the one Dem six times as much. eom
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:55 PM
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10. Am praying that Bu$hco falls apart soon
A few more serious missteps, a few more bad meetings with the press. (Dubya looks terrible, doesn't he?)

More and more conservatives are jumping ship. Not all of them are winding up here, but obviously many are.

I think if he tries to steal the election again, and people can't find more than a handful of folks in their neighborhood who actually voted for him, there could be some major rioting.
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LZ1234 Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:49 AM
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2. I am outraged that the media isn't all over this.
Especially when we're hearing that the draft is possibly coming back. Why isn't a big deal made of this? Getting these soldiers home who are now stuck in Iraq should be a first priority. These soldiers are our sons and daughters. When I hear people express that their main concerns are health care and employment I want to ask why are they only thinking of themselves at this moment? No, we'd rather concentrate on issues like American Idol, Janet's breast, Michael Jackson, etc.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:58 AM
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4. Health care IS a major concern.
I think it is just as important as ending this ridiculous occupation. Once the soldiers get home, they'll need good health care, especially since they've been needlessly exposed to depleted uranium. I wager we'll see a return of Gulf War Syndrome.

And yes, I'm concerned about health care for me, too. I can't be a good citizen unless I am healthy. Nor can anyone else. You can't have a healthy democratic republic without healthy citizenry.
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LZ1234 Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:07 PM
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7. Where did I say health care was not important?
I was referring to issues of priority. If soldiers come back in body bags then they won't have to worry about health care. First get them back here alive and then tackle health care reform. I was referring to the DEGREE of people's concerns I've observed.
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:58 AM
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5. Pl;ease take a minute to read this
This is a letter posted at MFSO written by the father of a soldier who died in Iraq. I did not have the heart to just post snippets here so the following is the entire text. No copyright as far as I can tell.It is on the home page, scroll down to "Families Speaking Out"

Open letter:

12/31/03 09:04:51 p.m

Another year ends today, a year full of important events in the lives of the American people and especially many Latino families like mine. Exactly one year ago my entire family was gathered together, ready to enjoy a meal prepared by my wife and daughters. My son, Jesus, was so happy with his wife and their son Erick. Everyone sat around the table and we counted the 12 tollings of the bell and ate the traditional 12 grapes, hoping that the new year 2003 would be full of joy, peace, love, and prosperity for all. We embraced and wished each other much happiness for 2003. I recall that my daughter Olivia told me, "Dad, you will have many opportunities this year," and Jesus told me "Father, Thank you for educating me. I am a Marine now and I hope to do well so that you will be proud of me." I answered him that I was already proud of him, that I had always been proud, and that I hoped he would achieve his goals together with his wife and son. And so that terrible year began with much hope for the entire family, for the American people, and especially for all Californians. And February arrived with its rumors of war and with the stubborness and inflexibility of Mr Bush who insisted on attacking Iraq. The UN could not use its authority nor the rule of law to stop him and so the world waited with fear as Bush declared that according to intelligence the regime in Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. On the fifth of February, Jesus bid us farewell and headed towards his destiny in the faraway lands of Iraq. As he said goodbye we embraced alone outside in the driveway of our home. It was diffcult for me to hold back my tears but he was optimistic and with great clarity he told me, "Father, do not fear, nothing will happen to me, we are well trained and well prepared. But if something does happen please take care of my son and educate him as you did me." He climbed in the car with his wife and son at 9 p.m.

March arrived, the nineteenth to be exact, when American troops began their offensive against Iraq. The war begain without the support of the UN, without the support of the American people, without the support of the world community--a war started by Mr Bush who lied to the American people and to the world community. Mr Bush insisted that Iraq was a threat to the US and the whole world and unfortunately many believed him and so the deaths began. And on March 27 a young Mexican boy fell, full of hopes and dreams, deceived by the government, a good boy who had more important work ahead, a son to love, raise and educate. Yes, Jesus Alberto Suarez del Solar Navarro, the Aztec Warrior, died because of the negligience of the US military command in Iraq. A US cluster bomb had been dropped the night before but Delta Comapany was not advised and so the tragedy took place and two hours passed before helicopters could evacuate him. He did not die alone but rather he died with his friends, his brothers, and their love surrounding him. He died free of hate and in peace.

April 11 arrived--the day the Aztec Warrior was sowed, yes sowed because he is a seed for peace for future generations. We all wept because of his loss and his absence but his mother, my wife, suffers the most, she who bore him, took care of him when he was ill, who taught him to respect me and to love me. She is the one who has suffered the most.

And the rest of 2003 passed by and many more brave American youth have died and with them their dreams until we have almost reached 500 dead American troops and thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqis.

And December 4 arrived, my grandson's birthday, and I found myself in the exact place where my Aztec Warrior fell. And I placed a crucifix, said a prayer, and gathered the earth where his blood ran. I fulfilled my promise to my wife that I would find that sacred spot, and during my time in Iraq I could see and witness that my son was right to say that the children of Iraq were the ones who really needed our help. And I could witness as I visited the hospitals and shortages of medicine the lack of economic assistance provided by the Bush administration. And in the schools I could see that the children are eager to learn but do not have what they need to get ahead and the Bush administration offers them nothing. I could feel it in the streets of Baghdad where shoeless children whose parents died in the war offered me a smile in exchange for a friendly word, a kiss in exchange for letters from American children. In short, I could see that the liberation of the Iraqi people has cost them a great deal and it has cost the US as well.

And December 14 arrived, the day the dictator and murderer Sadaam Hussein was captured. And Mr Bush tells us that at last we have him, that peace has arrived for the Iraqi people, but in the ensuing days the deaths of young Americans increase and Mr Bush continues to lie to us, continues violating international law, claiming that Sadaam will be treated as a prisoner of war and tried under international law only to tell us days later that the Iraqi people must try and sentence him. What about international law? Why does Bush fear an international tribunal?

And so we arrive to the present, the 31st of December, the end of this terrible and unhappy year 2003 and what do we find? That everywhere, in every city and in every family, there is joy, optimism, and the usual New Year's Eve custom of conveying our best wishes. This is why I have taken the liberty to write this letter in order to tell you that it is imperative that in this coming year of 2004 we be cautious and very focused in our actions, for this is the beginning of a presidential election year in this great nation. And we must do everything in our power to make sure that Mr Bush is not reelected and to ensure that he does not steal the election. I invite everyone to reflect on recent events that have cost so many lives, jobs, broken families, economic ruin, and do all we can to defeat Bush, a defeat that is in the best interest of the American people and world peace.

The hope of my entire family is that God will grant you the health and strength to continue this struggle.

In peace.

P.S. I wish to thank all those who have offered their support, friendship, and warmth. I cannot name everyone and do not want to forget anyone. But you know who you are.

I would also like to thank the representatives of the media who have covered my activities in the service of peace.

POR UNA GENERACION LLENA DE PAZ Y AMOR!!
EL GUERRERO AZTECA
May God Bless all of you.
Sincerely:
Fernando Suarez del Solar

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:17 AM
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6. I CANNOT STOP WEEPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so full of sorrow..............

REST IN PEACE AZTEC WARRIOR
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:16 PM
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8. Here's why the media are ignoring this
The media makes its money selling advertising time to corporations.

Corporations make money selling their products to affluent white people ages 25-55, and their advertising is directed towards that audience.

Many people serving in the army and marines are not white, and none of them are affluent.

Therefore, they are of no interest to the media.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:54 PM
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9. Posted it many times and dont forget
On March 14 the MFSO and many vets will be protesting at Dover Air Force base, and sitting down to protest..
will the news media cover it? I doubt it..they didnt cover military families when they showed up in DC during Bush's stinking SOTU address....
The media also didnt cover it when the military families flew to Baghdad to demand to see their children
Its like we DONT EXIST
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:56 PM
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11. is MFSO taking part in the March 20 anti-war demonstrations?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 12:57 PM by truthspeaker
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:46 PM
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12. Hi Mari..
On C-span, about a month ago, I did see some family members speak of their visit to Iraq. It was very moving.........yet, it wasn't on the MAIN media. Pathetic.

My beautiful daughter was involved in the first Gulf war. I nearly lost my mind with panic and grief and sorrow..not just for her, I promise you, it was FOR ALL OF THEM that serve and for the innocents.

I sat out in front of the Dentist office while g.son was inside today; I remembered the Aztec Story from MFSO....and I SOBBED alone there, in my car. My face was AWASH in tears. WHERE IS THE LOVE and concern in this world today????

Maybe Moveon. could protest the non-airing of these protests?????
Certainly, I am going to write (for the umteenth time) to cable networks about covering these events.

I live just south of San Francisco. Thanks for the links to events!
I sent VN Vet hubby out to his meeting tonight; told him to gauge the attitude of the vets in his group and let's see what happens here in town as well as letters to washington.
SOMEHOW this tragedy in Iraq has to be known--TO BE SEEN by the public. I marched in the 60's, it made a difference.

In my opinion, afterall, it is THIS ILLEGAL WAR in Iraq that is the MOST damaging to Bush right now; it's probably thee single most significant reason for all people to want him the HELL OUTTA WASHINGTON. Let's go out and get these protests, this message out into the Public. I beg you.
~~Peace in our time~~
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:05 PM
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13. Kick
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