"We've known for 25 years that there were flaws in our intelligence

[alcuno]

agencies." I made the mistake of turning on H & C and heard Ollie North say this. Something about how we haven't had good human intelligence since some commission 25 years ago.

Has anyone else heard this right-wing spin? If "everyone" knows our intelligence is flawed, why would we go to war using it as our basis, Ollie? These people make me crazy. Absolutely nuts.

[lastknowngood]

1. Don't let it get to you just remember he is traitor to his country

and a convicted felon with no morals or conscience.

[Ramsey]

2. THat's exactly why

Pre-emptive strike is soooooooo incredibly stupid.

[DrBB]

3. The Church commission

...which looked at CIA illegal domestic spying during the civil rights era, and reorganized things to try to ensure they respected civil liberties. Basically established all the rules that were unwritten by USA-PATRIOT act. A long-time target of right wingers--they've always felt deprived by not having an SS or Stasi or KGB to play with over here.

[Corgigal]

4. Then why did Bush trust it NOW?

Also who gets to tell the families of the dead soliders and Iraqis?

[alcuno]

5. Exactly. Also, all of our failings have now been exposed for the

world to see (following their logic.) We went into Iraq and chaos ensued; everyone was left thinking, "This is the greatest superpower in the world?" They can't even get the lights turned on." And now we are left looking like total incompetents when it comes to the issue of intelligence. Many who might have refrained from engaging in mayhem are left to think, "Let's do it. The Americans aren't watching. They're incompetent."

How does exposing our flaws for all the world to see make us safer, Mr. President? Wasn't the mystique of the all-powerful US a prohibitive factor for some?

[Pobeka]

6. Because it is still more important to cater to his rich buddies.

You know, gouge consumers, by laundering tax dollars -- make money by starting a war and completely controlling the contracts in Iraq.

[ComerPerro]

13. Bingo

Why did he insist that it was the absoulte truth if he knew we had flaws in our intelligence agencies.

[leesa]

7. But remember how "sound" our intelligence was when these fools were

forcing the war down our throats?

[Zero Gravitas]

8. the biggest intelligence failure

happened in the Oval Office

[GreyV]

9. there were flaws in our intelligence...

"...there were flaws in our intelligence agencies."..... hahaha, hilarious!


Oh, there are some serious "intelligence flaws" alright.

[Oilwellian]

10. These must be the flaws he spoke of

Why U.S. Intelligence Failed
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/102203.html

[9215]

11. Just as Carter was leaving

the White House....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[adriennel]

12. isn't Bush Sr partially to blame?

ya know, after running the CIA in secret for so long?
I like the way BushCo's claims of faulty intelligence indirectly slams his father--at least in my opinion, BushSr can't be too happy with the whole "bad intelligence" excuse. Besides, if the intelligence was faulty, why aren't the Commander in Chief and his cronies also to blame? There is no law stating that the President must do everything the CIA advises.

gimme a break :eyes:

[ComerPerro]

14. Fuck you, Ollie North

you stupid criminal asshole media whore. You should be in jail. Instead you have your own TV show.

Fuck you
Fuck Faux News
Fuck the neocons.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. BS! this is a wingnut talking point..using aftermath of Watergate as proof

just for revenge of their criminal acts and being caught by intelligence agencies...that these crooks now hate and want to destroy and replace with their troops... :grr:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. these turds call them "flaws" because they are the "flaws" that caught

them in the commission of their fucking crimes!!!!!

naturally the likes of Ollie and his ilk see it as a "flaw"