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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:04 PM
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Gore Speech Reveals Saddam was a Bush Sr. Made Man
I was just listening to The Guy James' show of last Saturday from the White Rose Society archives. A couple of right-wingers called up and asked what Guy thought Al Gore might have done regarding Saddam Hussein had he been elected President.

It got me thinking about a speech of Gore's I'd read a while back and so I set out to find it. Well, I found it and from reading it I think we have a pretty good idea of how Gore felt about Hussein. Gore and other Democrats in congress were seriously against any involvement with Hussein and Iraq. Reagan took Hussein off the list of states that sponsor terrorism and sold all sorts of dangerous stuff to the tyrant in Iraq. Bush I fought every single thing that they tried to do to reign Saddam in right up to after he went into Kuwait. It's freaking surreal.

Whenever Republicans or conservatives try to give us shit about what Democrats would have done about Saddam and say that he would still be in power if Gore were President...after we're done kicking their asses, we need to educate them about what really went on. We need to tell them that it was their party that built and maintained Hussein and it was Gore and other Democrats who tried to keep him from becoming the monster that he became.

In 1992 during the heated campaign for the Whitehouse the mantra for the Clinton/Gore team was “it’s the economy, stupid”, but the assault on Bush the elder could just have easily been targeted toward his administration’s duplicity on Iraq. In September 1992 Senator and Vice Presidential candidate Al Gore addressed the Center for International Policy and articulated a comprehensive dissertation on the inconsistencies, fabrications and collaboration between the Reagan/Bush I administrations and Saddam Hussein.

....Excerpts from Gore’s speech of September 29, 1992


http://www.republicons.org/view_article.asp?RP_ARTICLE_ID=600
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:04 PM
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1. I love that, "what would Gore have done"
Well, for one thing, if Gore were president there would not have been a 9/11...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:05 PM
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2. He gassed his own people when he was our ally
Not that anyone's keeping score here.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:09 PM
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4. Union Carbide gassed and killed thousands in Bophal India!
When will Bush Attack KKKarbide?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:09 PM
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3. I've thought about this.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 09:15 PM by MrSlayer
And it seems that at the time it was in our best interests to support Saddam against Iran. If Iran had won that war I think both countries would be in far worse shape than they are now and extremely dangerous to us, unlike Saddam who wasn't.





Edit: Accidentally hit the post button with only one sentence written.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:19 PM
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5. Charlie Wilsons War
I'm about halfway through a good book. It's about Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson, A CIA officer, and the war against the Russians in Afghanistan. The CIA officer, Gust Avratokos was in charge of the South Asian Branch of clandestine services division.

So he was responsible for everything from Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, and Afghanistan. He says the whole idea in the Iran-Iraq war was to create a stalemate, and let them kill each other off.

It's a pretty good book. "Charlie Wilsons War", by a veteran 60 minutes producer.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:24 PM
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6. Well I'm not against that idea.
And I don't doubt that being the case. I just think that it's better that we tipped the scales to Iraq in that situation. When Iran started winning we had to step in.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:26 PM
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7. One thing about that, however
Iraq started that war, no doubt at the bidding of the United States. So if there had been no Saddam, there wouldn't have been an Iran-Iraq war.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:30 PM
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8. Yes well that brings us back the original idea.
That they kill each other off. But by no means should we have allowed Iran to win when it seemed like they were going to.

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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:59 AM
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11. As it turns out we were supporting both
And using the money from the covert/illegal sale of arms to Iran to support a group of terrorists who were trying to overthrow a democratically elected government in Nicaragua! Iran/Contra anyone?

Ronald Reagan - Mr. We don't deal with terrorists. I don't think so.
:puke:
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:41 PM
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9. Check out this video
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 09:51 PM by Catshrink
It's about how the US has always "had" Saddam:

http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html

And a little Frank, too!

on edit: if you have trouble loading it, try the main page at

http://www.ericblumrich.com/index.html

You can download an .exe file. Well worth it!
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RUredE4me Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 07:37 AM
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10. As you will notice...
No one seems to explain how Sodom Hussein got to power and how he obtained those gases he used to kill the Kurds.
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