Are cons abandoning Shrub?

[booley]

I am seeing statements like this from a self proffessed Conservative more and more...

"Aside from being against gay marriage, what about GWB is conservative?
 
He likes big government.
He likes big spending.
Last I knew, he liked the Clinton gun ban.
He likes "liberalizing" immigration policies.
 
I don't really see much of anything he does representing a "conservative" ideology."

next we have Novak writing about Shrub's credibility problem (talking of pots and kettles...)

and then I am hearing that 1 in 7 republicans in New hampshire voted for somebody else in thier primary.

has anyone else noticed this? Are even the freepers beginning to lose faith in thier great conservative hope? And is there any way to determine that they are fed up with Shrub or that they are finally figuring out that thier neo-con ideology just doesn't work?

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Let's hope so

[JuniorPlankton]

2. They are just "unhappy" with the shrub

However, their rallying cry is: Better than the scary Democratic alternatives. (The opposite of ABB :)

You can't really expect them to vote Democratic, but if they just stay home that would be good enough.


P.S. Very few have any doubts about the righteousness of their ideology.

[YNGW]

6. Don't count on them staying home.

In their eyes, a bad conservative is 1,000 times better than any kind of liberal.

[x-g.o.p.er]

3. Absolutely

I did. I re-registered as a democrat today, as a matter of fact.

[lovedems]

4. So, I take it you voted for bu$h? I am curious, what was the final straw

for you and the republican party? What is bu$h or the republican leaders like DeLay and Hassert? Just wondering what the history was and what made you switch parties.

:hi:
Welcome! The country needs more democrats! I hope you never second guess your choice!

[x-g.o.p.er]

8. Here's why

I posted this a few days ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1069573

[booley]

5. I think what gets me..

..is that the cons I hear say they are abandoning shrub say he isn't really a conservative. but from where I stand, he sure looked conservative.

From the big bread and butter of modern conservative idiology of tax cuts , military spending, gutting federal aganecies and even star wars..shrub seemed to be following the conservative line.

The few issues he tried to take from liberals and moderates like education and claining up the environent, he has either sabatoged his own initiatives. or in the case of Clear Skies initiative, actually did the opposite of what he claimed he was doing.

and it's hardly like the the other republicans as a group had any problems with Shrub until he began to look weak.

So is this really a back lash against Shrub for abandoning his principals? Or just rats fleeing a sinking ship?

and no, this is not an attack against any former repubs who have switched parties. I am talking about freepers and people like Novak. people who still champion the same cause that Shrub was at one time seen the head of...

[x-g.o.p.er]

10. I don't think is was a perception of weakness

It was that he is a hypocrite. He claims to want a strong defense, but his continual use of the military will weaken it substantially. He claimed that it was not the business of America to meddle in other countries, but it seems like he is way more involved in day to day operations in Iraq than day to day operations here at home.

And don't even get me started on the budget deficit. Ugh.

[Lefty48197]

7. He's a conservative, no doubt about it

He says he's a good money manager, and that he will balance the budget, yet he sent the deficit throught the stratosphere.

He wants to transfer the tax burden from rich people, with more money than they know what to do with, to those that have no money.

He uses U.S. military troops as part of election campaigns.

He's a conservative.

[wabeewoman]

9. I think so

My RW brother who was very very pro-bush has stopped talking about it-stopped defending bush. He really can't deny his wonderful rush is a lying druggie. He cares about a balanced budget and stopping immigration(of Mexicans, at least) and bush lost him on those 2. What I hear instead of bush is better than a democrat is that maybe gridlock is the way to stop government. They REALLY don't like bush's trillion dollar deficit. To me, gridlock means either they vote for the democratic president or for congress. Or they just don't vote. I think we keeep pointing out bush is a neo-con not a conservative and neo-cons are bad for this country.

[Terwilliger]

11. Let's hope so...

cuz Democrats won't pull people away from him

[0007]

12. The freepers will always be loyal to junior - at least 90%