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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:38 PM
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Should towns provide shelter for homeless when it's cold? Poll
Be sure to read the comments..

Thankfully Yes is "winning" but the fact that 24% said no or not sure is troubling all the same..

http://www.wmdt.com/
Should towns or counties provide shelter for people with nowhere to go in the cold?
Yes
No
Not sure


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:49 PM
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1. Yes. DUH!
The people who said no must live in the tropics and have no clue how deadly the cold is.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:05 AM
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19. "DUH"..pretty much says it all. hehe
there are some pretty scary citizens out there. Yikes!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:51 PM
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2. the comments
are very ,very scary. i hope these people never get cold
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:56 PM
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5. Homeless shelters attract more people??
Um.. Yeah. I have a nice warm home, but I would leave it in a heartbeat to move into a homeless shelter.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:56 PM
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6. especially GWB
God's plan for natural selection? :wtf:
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mtlipsc Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:54 PM
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3. Fox News does that to people
I used to have fairly nice parents. Reasonably compassionate. Not any more. After years of watching Fox News they now think that the poor deserve their poverty. Survival of the fittest, that's their motto. I'm glad my kids are too old to be influenced.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:05 PM
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9. Welcome to DU..
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:33 PM
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27. Hi mtlipsc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:55 PM
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4. more proof that
"christians" do not walk the talk of Christ.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:57 PM
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7. Hey, don't lump us all together
We on the Christian Left don't consider ourselves to have much in common with the kind of "christian" you are thinking of. :^)

http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:00 PM
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8. sorry greenparty
in my haste I did not clarify - I meant the holyroller, wear-a-prayer-on-your-sleeve and condemn those who dont, kind. you know, like the ones ruling this country? SORRY!!!!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:07 PM
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10. ;^D
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 07:08 PM by GreenPartyVoter
'S'alright. I figured that's what you probably meant. :hi:
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jmags Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:09 PM
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26. These are probably the same people who are apalled
when Scrooge talks of letting the poor die to get rid of the 'surplus population.'
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:57 PM
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11. The towns should, but if the towns won't then
those Christian Churches who say poverty is a virtue should be providing shelter.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:58 PM
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12. I live in South Florida..
And when it gets below a certain temperature they open shelters in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties that I know of..

I think they have hot food too but Im not sure on that.

Heyo
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 08:06 PM
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13. Same thing in North Florida
when it gets too cold the shelters are allowed to take in more people.

However, dealing with the issue of homelessness needs to go beyond the quick fix for emergencies. This is how we have dealt with homelessness for the last 20 years and it's not working.

First, society needs to acknowledge that there are always going to be people who for numerous reasons, can not take care of themselves. One way or another society is forced to take care of these people. Unfortunately, there are not many options available beyond emergency shelter to find more permanent solutions to rehousing people once they become homeless.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:19 PM
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14. Here's a post on homelessness causes and cures that
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 09:20 PM by Cleita
I put in the Meeting Room. Even though it's mostly about California, I think some of the fixes I mention, especially property taxes for the guttonously rich in property, which you also have in Florida could work for you. I mean MirDeLago or whatever that palace Donald Trump has down there certainly qualifies for huge property tax assessments.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=111&topic_id=16544

Edited for link.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:54 PM
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15. How about letting the homeless stay in the churches overnight
when it is freezing outside? The churches, now being subsidized or about to be subsidized by Bush if he gets his faith based charity schtick off and running, are empty most of the time, are they not? All of that has to be heated in order for the pipes not to freeze etc. So why not open it up and let the homeless at least sleep on the floor or on one of the pews in order to not freeze to death.

We have had below zero temps for at least two weeks now here. There are homeless people although not many at all. I would imagine that in the larger cities, thee would be a lot more wandering around looking for some shelter in this bitter cold.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:57 PM
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17. Churches are some of the biggest providers of temp shelter
especially if they're located in downtown and inner city areas.

My own church is an overflow shelter for the downtown Minneapolis area. We also cooperate with the other downtown churches in providing hot meals on a rotating schedule.

However, your average suburban megachurch would rather shut down than take in homeless people.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:40 PM
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28. Church in Birmingham
There was a church in Birmingham that made a local man stop giving out food on their front lawn. They said it attracted "undesirables".
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:09 PM
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16. Yes, and when it's warm too
One would think that the wealthiest nation in the world could afford to put roofs over all the heads, eh?

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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:01 AM
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18. Should cities keep people from starving to death?
Of course.

The problem is that homelessness doesn't go away when things get warm. This is a year-round problem and a nationwide problem and we need to show the will to fix it. If someone is genuinely homeless, we need to help them with a temporary place and work them toward permanent housing and a liveable situation.

But a good number of the folks on the street are crazy. We need to get them into treatment and, in the extreme cases, put them in institutions.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:24 AM
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20. It is troubling...
That 20% of the population is so callous that the plight of their fellow human beings means nothing to them. :(
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:48 AM
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21. no one should be without shelter and food
anytime of the year
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:08 AM
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22. What kind of question is this?
I mean what's the point? What kind of person can legitimately say no?? The only possible answer is yes.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:56 AM
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24. The fact that they even ASK is what's troubling to me..
Why not have this question?

Is it OK to beat your wife if you don't really hurt her?

or

Is it OK to cheat your employees if they don't know or complain about it?

or

Is it OK to lie in court if no one finds out you lied??

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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:17 AM
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23. the "compassionate conservatives"
have left some enlightening comments.

i voted yes, of course.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:04 PM
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25. No way. If they can't provide shelter for themselves,


it must be because they are lazy and don't want to work. Having to stay out in the cold will motivate them to find a job. Ooops. Sorry I forgot I was on DU. Thought I was on Free Republic when I typed my response.
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