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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:29 AM
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David Kay - CIA
I found an interesting site about David Kay and why anything he says should be suspect. Also I did not know of all the contracts his former company (SAIC) is getting in Iraq. These are scary people and it seems that they all are tied in together.

The site:
http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0105.html
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:20 AM
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1. Okay, I'm ready to relocate
to another planet.

Volunteers for Mars...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:29 AM
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2. From the Article.....
Excellent analysis. Thanks for posting it....

<But it's the blatant conflict of interest that's the most important aspect of Kay's role in peddling the lie of Saddam's WMDs, through his relationship to SAIC ('conveniently' terminated last October) and of SAIC's relationship to the Iraqi Reconstruction and Development Council, which is wholy owned by this US defense corporation! A corporation which also has contracts to supply services to the Department of Homeland Security. This is the reality of the 21st century mercenary, where the administration of an occupied country has been handed over, lock, stock and barrel to a company and also through a sub-contract from Vinnell Corp, another mercenary outfit hired by the US government to 'police' Iraq.

What the investigation of David Kay reveals is the incestuous and utterly corrupt, interlocking relationship that exists between defense corporations, the Pentagon, right-wing ideologues and the USUK governments at the highest level, that makes any assertions made by Kay, Bush or Blah not worth the paper they're written on. With billions of dollars of contracts being handed out to corporations that are also involved via people such as Kay and who try and justify the policies that make such contracts possible, is crime of monstrous proportions. A crime that the media ignores completely. This is the real story, and the media need to be called to task for failing to report it.>
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:41 AM
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3. nice find...thank you......bookmarked
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:35 PM
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4. kick
thanks. more ammo
:kick:
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:49 PM
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5. Good catch is an understatement!


This is the first I've seen of Kay's business ties to companies involved in Iraq's reconstruction. But this part really gave me a jolt.

Let the buyer beware
Kay also has connections to the man who supplied much of the totally discredited information on Iraq’s alleged nuclear weapons programme, Khidir Hamza who, surprise-surprise is also now an employee of SAIC as a member of the Iraqi Reconstruction and Redevelopment Council! Hamza has much to answer for and it’s more than likely that the fabled ‘other documents’ (if they exist at all) that Blah has referred to in connection with the faked Niger yellowcake documents, are the ones supplied to the IAEA in July 1995 by Hamza.


Surprise Surprise indeed. Hamza is the guy to talk too now. If they can link Hamza to the faked Niger documents we then have a link from the US government to those documents........ :wow:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:54 PM
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6. this is a scary and frightening link
from the link

What the investigation of David Kay reveals is the incestuous and utterly corrupt, interlocking relationship that exists between defense corporations, the Pentagon, right-wing ideologues and the USUK governments at the highest level, that makes any assertions made by Kay, Bush or Blah not worth the paper they're written on. With billions of dollars of contracts being handed out to corporations that are also involved via people such as Kay and who try and justify the policies that make such contracts possible, is crime of monstrous proportions. A crime that the media ignores completely. This is the real story, and the media need to be called to task for failing to report it.

If this is true, and it seems to be well written, I can only say that it will take an extraordinary person to overcome all of this corrupt corportism and cronyism. It will take someone who is expceptionally brave, who has integrity, and no connections to the slime that seeks to make billions of dollars on the murders of thousands of children, women, old men and not to mention our own troops.

This is so disgusting--so disgusting :puke:

This is what has been done to our once proud nation under the dumb, but evil, George Bush. An evil, despicable, man who is a pathological lier, a sociopath who runs a government that sees itself as entitled over and above the consitutition and the PEOPLE of the country they lead with their evil cabals. Get em out! They are greedy, despicable people and never ever let a Bush be elected again to any office--including the most lowly. He, George Bush, the Dauphine, is a serial killer, a liar, guilty of war crimes and is dumb, inept, negligent and greedy all rolled into one fat little head.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:59 PM
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7. but but but.....
......this morning Republican pundit Cliff May said on CNN that Kay is a man of impeccable integrity!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:09 PM
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8. Depends on your definition of integrity
Bear in mind, these people typically don't think they're doing anything "wrong" -- they have justifications for all of it, no doubt. For them, it's WE who don't understand.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:11 PM
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10. Robert Novak, on Crossfire yesterday, called Kaye a hard-liner
and a hawk.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:27 PM
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9. I love that "SH conned us into an invasion" Heh he ROFLOL Bawhahah
Same crap that Condescending Rice was spouting the other day. Yep,the ole' Pigeon drop by SH and we took the bait.

Gawd.....


David
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:40 PM
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11. here's an example, straight from the whor(e)se's mouth, of his dishonesty
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 03:51 PM by buycitgo
taken from a CNN story last year, discussing credibility of mobile bio weappons trailers.....will find link:

Former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay told CNN on Saturday that though there was a "lack of strong evidence" that the vehicles had been used to produce deadly biological agents, "the most likely use" and "the most probable use" was to create biological weapons. He said suggestions that the mobile labs had some more benign application, such as producing agricultural chemicals, were unlikely......

......Kay said he was aware of a number of theories that the vehicles might have had other uses, "none of which make any logical sense."

Kay saw one of the vehicles on a recent trip to Iraq and received reports on the second.

Kay said most of the alternative uses that have been suggested "didn't pass the laugh test."

"The silliest one," Kay said, was the suggestion that they had been designed to generate hydrogen for meteorological balloons.


don't you just LOVE that last sentence?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:50 PM
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12. and isn't THIS interesting?
seems he's very good at contradicting himself in the most egregious manner, yet the handmaidens are too "lazy" to connect the dots

from an LA Times article regarding Cheney's amazing claim of late that the trailers WERE mobile labs:

Cheney also argued that the main thrust of the administration's case for war — the claim that Iraq was assembling weapons of mass destruction — had been validated by the discovery of two flatbed trailers outfitted with tanks and other equipment. "We've found a couple of semi-trailers at this point which we believe were in fact part of program," Cheney said. "I would deem that conclusive evidence, if you will, that he did in fact have programs for weapons of mass destruction."

That view is at odds with the judgment of the government's lead weapons inspector, David Kay, who said in an interim report in October that "we have not yet been able to corroborate the existence of a mobile production effort." In a BBC interview that aired Thursday night on public television in the United States, Kay said that is still the case. He said it was "premature and embarrassing" for the CIA to conclude shortly after the vehicles were discovered last year that they were weapons labs. "I wish that news hadn't come out," Kay said, calling the release of the information a "fiasco."


found it at this blog, with the fun heading:

Cheney: Underbriefed, Insane, or Senile?
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004_archives/000109.html

is ANYbody going to use these conflicting stories to show what an unprincipled, lying, SHILL this guy is?
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Snappy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:02 PM
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13. Kucinich
"If this is true, and it seems to be well written, I can only say that it will take an extraordinary person to overcome all of this corrupt corportism and cronyism. It will take someone who is expceptionally brave, who has integrity, and no connections to the slime that seeks to make billions of dollars on the murders of thousands of children, women, old men and not to mention our own troops."

Kutch is the only candidate that would have the stones to bring all of this putrid stink out to the public.
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