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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:15 PM
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DNC on WMD - "This was not a mistake"
"This may be the first time in recent history that a president knowingly misled the American people during the State of Union address," DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe said Tuesday. "Either President Bush knowingly used false information in his State of the Union address or senior administration officials allowed the use of that information. This was not a mistake. It was no oversight and it was no error."

Pretty good statement with some good questions including "The CIA, the State Department and the White House knew that this information was questionable, in some cases for the past year. Why was the admission only made public yesterday? How long were they planning to mislead the American public?"

Maybe they're getting a spine?

http://www.democrats.org/news/200307080002.html
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:22 PM
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1. Little good news from the DNC for once? Huzzah!
Good for you Terry. All is forgiven; you may come home (to the Democratic wing of the party).
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:37 PM
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23. I say let's keep holding his feet to the fire on this.
It's too important.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:24 PM
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2. Could be.
They need to keep this up and accelerate it.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:24 PM
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3. Wohoo.
Go get 'em Terry!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:25 PM
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4. DNC like so many other Dems....too little, too late
They knew in September of last year, that they wanted to go to war quick and get it out of the way!

Does anyone think it would have been "out of the way"? Does anyone think that fortunes for November 2002 would have changed if we went to war back then??
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:28 PM
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6. Terwilliger
Just 'cause I know exactly what you're going to say on any issue doesn't make the actual posts any less entertaining.

;-)
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:30 PM
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8. you stole my line!
I was going to make a post predicting the Dem-bashers' response, but you beat me to it! :-)
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:34 PM
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9. Just because I'm predictable...
doesn't make Democrats any less traitors, and responsible for better than 5000 Iraqi civilian casualties.

Glad you're having so much fun! :eyes:
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:34 PM
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10. The truth hurts
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 08:36 PM by Bushknew
Plutocrats, the lot of them.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:48 PM
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15. and no answer from the Dem faithful
I guess you folks thought the "plan" would work :eyes:
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:26 PM
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5. McAuliffe is a good guy and MOST IMPORTANTLY ...
he has kept his ammo dry and did not shoot off his mouth until the deed was done. You see, Bush's problem with this is the timing ... the timing of his SOTU speech, the timing of Wilson's trip to investigate (October, 02), the repetition of the lie over and over, and now, it appears as if the chickens are coming home to roost.

What bothers me maybe more than the lying is if Bonehead truly did not know that the info was tainted since the information had been there for 3 months. I do not know that it serves the "grownups" to admit that they are that incredibly incompetent and useless although compared with the alternative, admitting that they actively presented and used fraudulent evidence, it might just be superior.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:28 PM
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7. here's the whole thing
Jul 8, 2003

Details Emerge of Bush Administration's Year-Long Deception

Washington, D.C. -- After a year-long campaign of deception involving a bogus intelligence report on Iraq's nuclear program, the Bush administration is continuing to mislead the public about the president's false statements during this year's State of the Union address.

"This may be the first time in recent history that a president knowingly misled the American people during the State of Union address," DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe said Tuesday. "Either President Bush knowingly used false information in his State of the Union address or senior administration officials allowed the use of that information. This was not a mistake. It was no oversight and it was no error.

"The allegations against the Bush White House couldn't be more serious. And the trouble is the administration still won't level with the American people. The Bush administration is continuing its deception by refusing to fully disclose who in the White House knew the information was false and why the President used it anyway."

Here are just a few questions the American public deserves to have answered:

Q: When U.S. intelligence agencies investigated and determined that the allegations were untrue, what information did they give to senior administration officials and when? To whom was it given to in the President's Office, the Vice President's Office, the National Security Council and the State Department?

Q: In light of the Congressional hearings and press inquiries, has the White House conducted an internal investigation into how clearly forged evidence made it into President Bush's State of the Union? Will the White House release to the public the findings of that investigation?

Q: How did something the intelligence agencies investigated and found to be untrue get into and then remain in the State of the Union? Who vets the President's speeches and statements for accuracy and truthfulness?

Q: If the allegations were questioned by the Vice President's office almost a full year prior to the State of the Union, and they claim they never received a satisfactory answer, why was it still included in the State of the Union?

Q: The CIA, the State Department and the White House knew that this information was questionable, in some cases for the past year. Why was the admission only made public yesterday? How long were they planning to mislead the American public?

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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:34 PM
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11. he's been pretty good lately
as long as the DNC stays clear of the DLC.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:37 PM
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12. What I find amazing re "the admission"
...is that apparently this phrase refers to Ari's incredibly garbled (even for him) attempt to answer without answering, say yes no and maybe at the same time and finally lapse into outright gibberish. I mean, if they were going to "admit it" you'd think they'd be capable of just doing so. I don't think Ari knew WHAT the fuck he was doing--reading the transcript, I think the "admission," if it WAS embedded in all that verbiage somewhere, was more or less inadvertent. I think he meant to obfuscate and found that it had somehow got out of his mouth in spite of himself. And then he started spinning like the end of a chain-pull toilet flush. Like watching a cockroach pinned to a dartboard. All his little legs scurrying, but that big spike through his middle just ain't going anywhere and neither is he. And lots more incoming.
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:41 PM
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13. no spine still... mcAuliffe is just going with the flow...
where was the DNC outrage before the war? It's convenient these turncoat bastards are just now starting to speak out. Shame on the DNC and those who supported this war.
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:09 PM
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21.  it isn't the DNC's job to under cut elected Dems
It is unrealistic to believe the DNC would attack other Dems over the Iraq war.
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:45 PM
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26. if they had backbone they would...
there's nothing worse than a two-faced party...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:46 PM
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14. It's about time
Are teh Democrats going to discover that here are vertebrates after all?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:51 PM
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17. So, do you think the "plan" would have worked?
I seem to remember being told that being against Bush on the issue was certain political death...especially for the 2002 midterms. Well, now that its clear (like it wasnt before) that Bush lied to make them do what he wanted...does that make the Democrats who voted yes on the war resolution "useful idiots"?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:46 PM
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27. The Dems who voted YES on the war resolution
Do you mean the "Blair Democrats"?

The Dems who voted YES on the war resolution should start doing some fast talking. They bought the lies and they look gullible.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:48 PM
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16. Good.
About time.

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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:51 PM
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18. Well, at least they waited for the mass media to say it first...
Makes me want to vote for Peter Jennings and not Daschle though...

It's a ray of light, but I want the sun to come out shining for a while before I trust them with my picnic again. They've rained on it once too many times.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:40 PM
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24. Sadly, you couldn't anyway. He's a native Canadian.
nm
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:00 PM
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19. good for him
and the third party dumbasses can bite me!:hi:

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:29 PM
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22. so you cant answer either, huh?
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:04 PM
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20. Someone found a backbone at the DNC!!!
Hope they don't loose it again
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:43 PM
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25. backbone? hell, they made a statement only AFTER...
this came about in the media. Not much backbone.
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