I think Kay is lying to save his life

[Atman]

The record of what happens to those who talk too much is already there. Heart attack in the park, Mr. Kay? Better blame this whole WMD mess on the CIA...Clinton's CIA of course, just wait. That is where this is going.

Poor Georgie was duped! Imagine that.

Massive whitewash in progress. Live, on CNN.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. people came to me in tears saying we were wrong

poor PNAC - they planned this since the 90s and now it turns out they were lied to


FUCKING ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!

[RandomKoolzip]

3. I can feel sympathy and kinship with all creatures of nature

except for anyone EVER who has been in the employ of the Bush administration. You couldn't pay me to feel sympathy for these treacherous cretins.

[SoCalDem]

4. NOTHING is ever Georgie's fault

It's been that way his whole life..move on..nothing to see here..

[desi]

6. Warner wants more time

for the Neo-Cons to plant these massive amounts of WMD's and an estimated 16000 missiles to deliver them...:crazy: before accepting the fact that they were all LYING...

[arcane1]

21. but when the 9/11 commission begged for a later deadline

they got a resounding "no" from the Bushits

[desi]

31. The Bushits do not want a report which will show their incompetence

to be debated close to the election. They want/need time for the reshaping and molding of public opinion. That is what is going on at this "hearing"...an impeachement hearing would be much better..yes?

[Jack_Dawson]

2. Does ANYBODY have balls, ANYWHERE?

O'Neill, Kay, the list is endless. And depressing.

[desi]

9. He held up pretty good to Warner

Warner looks pizzed on...

[indie_voter]

11. O'Neill isn't as bad as Kay, MHO

I feel sorry for O'Neill. He is trying to do the right thing. He says he regrets some of the language because it took attention away from his main points.

I sort of agree with him. The media is shallow and sensationalist. The "blind man in a room of deaf men" comment was the headline rather than the real one which is Bush is a uncurious dolt who is destroying our country.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040127/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/o_neill_bush_1

[bunk76]

5. This situation...

involving people in the bush administration reminds me of the line from a Bronx Tale.Chazz Palmitari tells the bikies"now youse cant leave",and the look on the guys face said it all.These people are scared to death of the B.F.E.E,and for good reason.
:evilgrin:

[Atman]

7. Wha-wa-waaaaaaa?

Kay says "There is nothing there." Warner says "But theoretically there could someday, somewhere, somehow maybe be something, anything, found, right?"

Kay says "Well...uh...sure, if you put it that way, there is always the theoretical possibly..."

Warner says "So then, we must proceed under the assumption that there may actually still be weapons there and the administration was right..."

What the fuck is going on here? Alice in Wonderland time!

[indie_voter]

13. ROFL!

I know this is serious, I really do. However, when I read quotes like this I have to laugh (or I would be a blithering mess).

I nominate this clip for the next Daily Show moment of Zen.

[59millionmorons]

8. You got to love John Warner

Say's 85% of the search is done, but he say's can't we still find something in that last 15%. Folks what we have here is a party in desparation to save little george.

[Gin]

10. Warner says...we need to keep looking to give the process a chance.

wonder what "process" he's talking about.

[RandomKoolzip]

20. The same "process" to which Bush wouldn't give a chance when the UN

was conducting it. Anybody remember that? How come we got ALLLLL the time in the world now to look for WMD's, but back in FEB 03, the UN inspectors weren't allowed more than a few weeks, with the adminisration barking down their snorkels the whole time?

[calimary]

42. There MUST be a pony! There just simply MUST be a pony!

GOTTA be a pony under all those piles of horseshit, dad! GOTTA be! I just KNOW it!

[trof]

41. Warner: "pleeze-pleeze-PLEEZE?"

"Mr. Kay, I'm begging on my hands and knees here. I'm offering you fellatio. Isn't there SOME kind of eentsy-teentsy-tiny miniscule liddle-biddy possibility of an outside chance that we might maybe find just the teeniest smidgen of microscopic possible evidence of weapons of mass destruction waaay out sometime in a limitless future if we sift every single inch of Iraqi soil through a fine mesh strainer?
Pleeze, PLEEZE, OH PUHLEEEEEZE?"

"Well, Senator, when you put it that way, yes, I guess so."

"AHA! See? I knew it. ALL the evidence points to WMDs. And besides, it's not Geroge's* fault, anyway. Told ya so, told ya so.
nyah na na na na."

[montanacowboy]

12. It is pretty depressing

listening to Kay cover his master's asses and Warner holding on to any little hope of finding the "big cache" someday, somewhere, even on freaking Mars if we have to... the search will never end, ergo...it will always be in doubt

move on...nothing here, just more bullshit

[SoCalDem]

15. and BTW.. The word is Cache...not CacheT..Those dumb asses

pronunciation Cassssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh...not Cash-AY...

JUST ONCE before I die, I wnat to hear these "investigations and hearings" using REAL LANGUAGE...

It's all just double talk. and gobbledegook.. Each side tries to elicit a nugget of truth that supports HIS side, and then the other side puts words into the person's mouth to prove HIS side..

in eht end..

Ho-Hum.. each side can use their special nugget for soundbytes, and the public still "knows" nothing..

[Jivenwail]

23. Warner

I will not ever forget seeing this putrid piece of garbarge on Faux news the day the illegal invasion started. It was on in our company employee lounge. There he was, blathering on and on and on about how "I guarantee we'll find those WMD". And I quote him here - he said "I guarantee that we will find WMD". I have never forgotten his words.

Why doesn't someone ask him about his "guarantee"??????

[kaitykaity]

14. You know this poor bastard got

a phone call in the middle of the night.

So, yeah, I think the guy is scared to death.

[nostamj]

16. two little syllables...

"anthrax"

[donsu]

34. yes, llike Daschle - they probably whisper in his ear weekly

'we will kill you'

[nostamj]

40. how long is the list

of people the bushies have played the 'anthrax card' on?

DiIulio? O'Neill? everygoddamnperson on CNN/MSNBC (FAUX wouldn't need the 'encouragement') the Reps that * called in the dark of night?

[lancdem]

17. Have any of the Dems addressed Kay yet?

I can't wait to hear them.

[nostamj]

19. Levin did!

exposed recent Cheney LIES about the 'mobile weapons trucks'

[Atman]

24. Levin did GREAT

He quoted -- with dates -- each member of the Bush team saying "We have no doubt..." "We are certain..." "They have and are ready to deploy..." and pointed out each time that nowhere did these people say "Programs or activities." He was very good.

Kennedy is on now.

[judge_smales]

18. I happen to know for a fact that WMD *will* be found.

The only reason they haven't been "found" yet is becasue the "Made in France" stickers keep falling off. Once that problem is solved there will be a new discovery every day.

[lovedems]

30. Yes, and the repulicans knew for a fact "that * won Florida"

remember how pissed they got when the media called Florida for Gore! I smell another dirty rat. They don't like people foiling their evil plans of deception!

[Terwilliger]

22. KENNEDY!!!

[Terwilliger]

25. bringing up Greg Thielmann

"most of the intelligence failure was due to data mining by the Bush admin"

[calimary]

43. Sounds like "doctor shopping" to me...

You GO, Ted!

1 (800) 839 - 5276 - TOLL FREE to the Capitol Hill Switchboard! Let Ted know he's doing great!

[desi]

28. McCAIN !!!

Is he Bush's ho or vice versa...???

[59millionmorons]

26. Did you see Kaye's face when it was Kennedy's turn

It looked like he was ready to vomit.

[maggrwaggr]

44. yes, he obviously did NOT want to face Kennedy

His expression was impossible to miss. He dreaded facing Kennedy.

I thought Kennedy didn't do very well, though.

[diamond14]

27. It's clear that there were NO WMD, no 'evil chemistry', NO 'evil

biology, and NO programs to make WMD....


hope transcript will be posted for review....it's ugly
(this overview summary grabs the main issues, may not be exact)....


Levin asks (multiple questions): are and were there WMD, Biological or Chemical weapons, programs to make those weapons...Biological Weapons trailers, 'aluminum tubes' for making 'uranium centrafuges, and nuclear manufacturing and PROGRAMS to make such WMD....?


kay (multiple answers): NO, we didn't find anything at all...none of that stuff was for nukes, there were no capabilities for any of that....there was NO big stockpiles, NO little stockpiles...there was just nothing at all
BUT (trembling to save his life)...we might still find something...

_________________________________-

McClain: so what we did was justified and necessary to protect the security of the US....right.

Kay: yes.

McClain: but we were wrong. so what happened....aren't we still protecting the US and IN THIS ELECTION SEASON...isn't it important we say this

Kay: I don't know what to say about that....I'm a scientist....

it's important to ACKNOWLEDGE FAILURE....

[diamond14]

29. 'wasn't saddam pursuing a course of 'constructive ambiguity'

now...they're blaming saddam for NOT having weapons of mass destruction...obviously, say the reTHUGlicans....saddam decieved us into thinking he had WMD...what could bush* do?


these reTHUGlicans need to go to the HAIG...they are WAR CRIMINALS....they pre-emptively KILLED thousands of innocent people...

[Kimber Scott]

32. Go Hillary!

Paraphrase Hillary: "If UN inspections were working, why have we had to lose so many American and Iraqi lives?"

Paraphrase Kay: "Well, even though, the inspections were working we've LEARNED a lot since we stopped the inspections."

POLEEEEEEEZZZZ! Now, are we to sacrifice our soldiers for a learning experience? According to the administration they already KNEW they had WMD. They KNEW where they were - in and around Bagdhad to the North, South, West and East somewhere there, exactly. They KNEW, but now they don't know, and it's been a "learning experience."

[Hubert Flottz]

33. Bush don't have anyone around him who can't lie well!

This KKKreep is no exception! His function in Iraq was to lie and cover up the facts! He will try and defuse any real threat to Bushco regardless of what is morally right or wrong! Once one starts lying it has a snow ball effect! The republicans in Washington are all there today simply because they are All expert liars and con-artists! They even lie to themselves!

[hang a left]

35. Brookings Institute guy up now with Wolf.

I am telling you Bushbot and co is going down. Brookings for goodness sakes.

[diamond14]

yes...the BIG time bushco DC Think-Tanks....

shrub is on his way out.....

unbelievable...Kay just compared the weapons inspectors to the Enron accountants....too much...

general, not exact....
Kay: well, it sort of like when Enron comes and tells you about their accounting practices...and there are probably some little problems there that most people won't understand...and you can see that there is nothing really wrong if you knew....

[desi]

36. On C-Span now...

Kay has the Neo-CON talking points down pat....bring up 9/11, he used weapons on his neighbors. yawn...Reed just asked him if NK was an "imminent threat"...

[diamond14]

37. WOW ! john warner (R-Virginia) is yelliing and blowing his top

he's really mad about Carl Levin's (D-Michigan) questions...said he has 'great umbrage' about even having these hearings, while the final reports are still wallowing in dust in his office...see's NO reason to continue until the final reports come in AND, since the reports are so 'voluminous', that congress will need MONTHS just to read it....and hopefully (which warner would not publically state) the whole mess will remain quietly in the cellar, until the shrub steals another election.....

[Atman]

38. Months to read it?

>>"see's NO reason to continue until the final reports come in AND, since the reports are so 'voluminous', that congress will need MONTHS just to read it"


But they approved the Patriot Act without cracking the cover. Sure John. You self serving, Bushasskissing fvck.

[buycitgo]

39. come ON! Kay is PART of this! they don't have to SCARE him!!!!

LOOK!

When the president needed someone to hawk his "Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are an imminent threat to homeland security" thesis to the American people, David Kay was the man. During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Kay was a ubiquitous presence on the cable news networks, backing the president's assertions. He testified before Congressional committees and had op-ed pieces published in several mainstream dailies. Although his pre-war predictions about the existence of WMD now appear less reliable than the clairvoyance of Johnny Carson's Karnac the Magnificent, the Bush Administration is counting on Kay, now the head of the WMD search team in Iraq, to bring home the bacon.
...........
Kay has had dealings with the CIA before. According to a late June Worldnet.com column {hahaha! my ha's} by Gordon Prather, a physicist who was the army's chief scientist during the Reagan years, Kay was fired from his position as deputy director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Iraq Action Team in the early 1990s because of his contacts with the U.S. intelligence community.

he's a fricking lying CREEP!!!!

and what about SAIC???? he's one of the 'employee-owners' (or was) of this creepy company, who just happens to be in charge of that new propaganda "news" network in Iraq, as well as getting big contracts relating to homeland security. Surprised?

this has been discussed at length here before, but just a reminder, from the same article:

Kay has also been involved with one of the nation's major defense contractors, serving as a Senior Vice President for the San Diego-based Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC). The company's Web site proudly describes itself as "the nation's largest employee-owned research and engineering company, providing information technology, systems integration and eSolutions to commercial and government customers." According to a mid-August report by Katrin Dauenhauer and Jim Lobe in Asia Times, "Of the six billion dollars it earned in revenue last year, about two thirds came from the US Treasury, mostly from the defense budget."

SAIC, heavily involved with homeland security projects, has already acquired several reconstruction contracts in Iraq, and Kay and a number of other former company employees are firmly planted in country. The company "has been running the Iraqi Reconstruction and Development Council (IRDC) since the body was established by the Pentagon in February," Dauenhauer and Lobe reported. "SAIC is also a subcontractor under Vinnell Corporation, another big defense contractor that has long been in charge of training for the Saudi National Guard, hired to reconstitute and train a new Iraqi army." And SAIC is also running the recently established Iraqi Media Network (IMN) project, whose charge was to "was to put together a new information ministry, complete with television, radio and a newspaper, and the content that would make all three attractive to average Iraqis."

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/Berkowitz_September-Surprise.htm

also in the article is this amusingly predictive quote from the widely admired Robert Novak:

"Former international weapons inspector David Kay… has privately reported successes that are planned to be revealed to the public in mid-September."

too bad the fricking SENATORS don't have anyone looking at the internet for stuff like this to toss at this lying POS.

it took me FIVE SECONDS to find this!!!

[desi]

45. Our memories are so short....

It is truly sad that people forget or worse yet, don't know who Dr. David Kay is...here's some more on this Bush/Neo-CON flunky.

http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0105.html

[sidwill]

46. What?

Did Warner shut this hearing down?

[buycitgo]

49. no.....don't understand where you reached that conclusion, but......

it's over now, already. each senator only had a very brief allotment of time to question Kay.

it was pretty much a joke, except for the questiong mentioned by Levin, a few by Kennedy.

they treated him with kid gloves, I'd say, compared to what went on during the Clinton inquisition

if they'd just GOOGLED a few things to bring up Kay's background, his conduct as UNSCOM inspector (and afterwards), plus his OWN outrageous assertions prior to the war, they might have lent themselves some cred.

this was a JOKE!

[buycitgo]

47. more on David Kay's sleazy provenance

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268143.shtml

consider the source, read the comments at bottom

among the salient questions:

Does Kay still have ties to SAIC?

Is he still with them/does he own stock?

Did he quit when coming to work for IGS? Did he quit before that?

can't find that info

now........

In 1992, Kay was fired from his UN position for trying to use underhanded methods (intriguing with the CIA and Iraqi thugs) to obtain 'informants' willing to feed him whatever information he needed (true or not). One such informant appears to be Khidir Hamza, whose 'evidence' was completely discredited by 1995. However, even in the aftermath of Kay's near-disgrace, Blix refused to bad-mouth him, as a matter of gentlemanly principles.

"How did Kay repay Blix for defending him?" asks highly credentialed physicist James Gordon Prather, in a June 30, 2003 interview in the Worldnet Daily website. "He repeatedly testified before congressional committees in the months preceding Operation Iraqi Freedom as to the ineptness of Blix and the U.N. inspection regimes. Kay argued that Saddam certainly had "weapons of mass destruction" that the UN inspectors would never find and that it would ultimately be necessary to invade and occupy Iraq to find them."

HEY!!!SENATORS!!!!!!

how come you didn't ask him about the above?????????????!!!!!!!!

not much of a conflict of interest there, hey?

[maggrwaggr]

48. nice work, buycitgo

Why don't they have that crawling across the bottom of the screen?

:eyes:

Kay is trying to cover his own ass here SO BADLY blaming everything on the "intelligence." and letting the (R) senators claim it all went back to Clinton and Carter.

[buycitgo]

50. thanks, but all I did was google Kay+SAIC

almost 7000 sites.

too bad the senate didn't bother to have someone do that

more on Kay's prewar activities as talking head

Whenever Kay makes the rounds of the Bush-controlled media these days, he is *always* introduced only as 'former UN chief weapons inspector' and 'senior fellow at the Potomac Institute for Policy Research.' In short, Kay skips over several years of his interim history. Why? Maybe because during the 'missing years,' he was Vice President of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), a company with extremely close ties to the Pentagon and to the Bush administration in particular. A company up to its armpits in post-war Iraqi business, not to mention secret contracts rumored to involve electronic spying. A company in which Kay is rumored to still hold a sizeable chunk of stock, one where he maintains a rich network of inside connections.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268143.shtml

the last sentence has been questioned, as Kay may or may not have connections to SAIC, and may not still have stock.....see bottom of page comments. point IS, his torturously labored comments today show him to be as disinterested in finding the truth as ALL the creeps in the admin, OR on the Repug side of the Senate Intel committee. the way they weakly handled Kay today, for the most part, the dems once again fall under suspicion

[buycitgo]

52. like I said, Kay is in this up to his eyeballs

more on Kay/SAIC

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_xymphora_archive.html

Who is David Kay? He used to work for the International Atomic Energy Agency. He is the former U.N. Special Commission chief nuclear weapons inspector, and as such spent time in Iraq right after the Gulf War looking for nuclear weapons on behalf of the United Nations. He is a former secretary general of the Uranium Institute, now called the World Nuclear Association, an apologist for nuclear power generation (whose co-chairman is currently Hans Blix!). Much more intriguingly, he is a former Corporate Senior Vice President of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), an extremely successful privately owned military contractor. He has spent much of the last five to ten years giving presentations in favor of attacking Iraq based on its alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction (for example, see here and here and here and here and here and here and - ahem - here in a Judith Miller article maintained on a State Department web site). Kay's own professional reputation lies in the balance if such weapons of mass destruction are not found.

SAIC is an employee-owned corporation based in San Diego that is known for its extreme aggressiveness in obtaining government, mainly military, contracts, and for its extreme financial success (some background here and here, and a recent story here). It is deeply embedded in the Pentagon. It has been heavily involved in contracts involving the Pentagon's plans for a missile defense system and the Future Combat Systems Program (remember that missile defense, the transformation of the military, and the removal of Saddam are express plans of the PNAC'ers; while PNAC wrote about the need for a 'Pearl Harbor', SAIC likes the expression 'electronic Pearl Harbor' in order to drum up business). SAIC makes electronic counterterrorism equipment, and has benefitted mightily from the 'war on terror' which followed 9-11.

SAIC is involved in Iraq in at least three ways:


*the construction and operation of a U. S. propaganda radio station at Umm Qasr, which will be part of a network including a nationwide propaganda television channel and an 'independent' propaganda newspaper

*the management of the Iraqis who the Pentagon plans to install as the lead bureaucrats for the Iraqi government of the future

*some other matter which is secret enough that the company won't talk about it, although a good guess might be that it has to do with electronic spying.

The timing of Kay's departure is interesting. He had a very high-level and presumably very lucrative position at a top military contractor until October 2002, when he left to work for yet another think tank (which specializes in miliary policy and terrorism). It is an odd career move, but it freed him up to be an 'independent' commentator in favor of the attack on Iraq (another guy who recently worked for SAIC is anthrax patsy Steven Hatfill). Do you think he ever really left SAIC?

read on....very interesting stuff

ever heard of Iraqi Reconstruction and Development Council?
http://middleeastreference.org.uk/irdc.html

or the "Future of Iraq Project"?
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/text/1216group.htm


me either

guess what? this whole deal is run under the aegis of the Iraqi Forum for Democracy, led by Emad Dhia.
http://www.iraqifd.org/index.html

according to xymphora's sources, these people represent "the leaders of the future Iraqi bureaucracy", and they're EMPLOYEES of SAIC!!!!

The team of Iraqi technocrats was selected by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz but is officially employed by a defense contractor, SAIC, the officials said. The team is headed by Emad Dhia, an engineer who left Iraq 21 years ago and who will become the top Iraqi adviser to General Garner. As head of the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance, General Garner is functioning as Iraq's civil administrator.
http://etaiwannews.com/World/2003/04/27/1051415122.htm

look at these news sources!!!
surprised that they're not from the US?
too busy running that tape loop of Dean going mental, I guess, to do any actual reporting.

[maggrwaggr]

54. here's a kick to that info! Everyone should read that

:kick:

[Gin]

55. SAIC is checking the computer voting options... for state of Virginia..

that does not make me feel any better.

Too incestuous..all these companies involved in all aspects of our lives and governmental processes.

[buycitgo]

56. thanks for that on Va voting! Dan Spillane is involved

back to a link from the EXCELLENT Dissident Voices
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Landes_SAIC-VoteHere-Diebold.htm

remember Avi Rubin?

Bev Harris readers will know

read the link above, which I'll bet has been posted before, to see what SAIC has to do with our most basic constitutional right:

on August 6th Maryland Governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R) gave a contract to Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) to review the Diebold Election System's software in preparation for elections in Maryland. The report is due in four weeks.......

SAIC is a behemoth military defense contractor with a shadowy, if not tarnished, reputation, while former SAIC executives also have ties to VoteHere. Why is that important? VoteHere is a growing company, which aspires to provide cryptography and computer software security for the electronic election industry.

Former President, Chief Operating Officer, and Vice Chairman of SAIC is Admiral Bill Owens, who is now Chairman of the Board for VoteHere. Owens also served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was a senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Carlucci's company is Carlyle Group, while Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer is Halliburton.

Another former SAIC board member, also on the board of VoteHere, is ex-CIA director Robert Gates, a veteran of the Iran/Contra scandal.

article goes on to mention........Bev Harris! she investigated SAIC (this must be old news, I'm sure), pointed out the following:

1) In 1990 SAIC was indicted by the Justice Department on 10 felony counts for fraud in its management of a Superfund toxic cleanup site. they pled......guilty!!!

2) In May 1995, the same month SAIC purchased NSI (Network Solutions Inc.), the company settled a suit that charged it had lied about security system tests it conducted for a Treasury Department currency plant in Fort Worth, TX."

3)According to a January 1994 article in the highly regarded Crypt Newsletter, edited by George Smith, "In 1992 one of Scientific Applications (SAIC) government projects blew up in the firm's face when it was charged with fabricating environmental testing from toxic waste dumps. SAIC eventually conceded to false claims and paid $1.3 million in penalties, a small sum compared to the estimated $1.5 billion the firm is expected to earn in 1994.

4)The Los Angeles Times cites government officials declaring Science Applications (SAIC) guilty of the "largest environmental fraud . . . we've had here" and an example of "corporate greed."

the above is all from the dissident voice site, and the entire thing bears reading, as it gets WORSE as you scroll down

remember Network Solutions? guess who bought them

[maggrwaggr]

53. I sure didn't know about SAIC

so there ya go. :)

As usual with these guys, the closer you look, the smellier it gets!

[Cat Atomic]

57. mispost

[indie_voter]

51. Susan Collins, Global failure of intelligence

HOW?!!

The rest of the world didn't buy the bridge the Bushies were selling?

How is this a Global failure?!

So does the CIA fight back? They are being maligned left and right.

Collins : I don't know if I can trust the NIE on North Korea now.

Where did the Anthrax, VX go? Do these people understand there is a shelf life to these chemicals? A simple way to explain, look at your asprin, it has an expiration date. When is the last time Iraq used WMD? HELLO!!!!

Kay: We may never know.

CIA people,now would be a good time to leak a certain memo from 8/01.

[Cat Atomic]

58. Why the hell does everybody assume Kay was threatened?

He's another right wing idealogue. THAT IS WHY THEY SENT HIM.

[Hubert Flottz]

59. I don't know if Kay is, "lying to save his life", but I do know this!

Bush Ccouldn't Tell The Damned Truth To Save His Life!