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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:30 PM
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When Do You Think Clark Will Enter the Race?
When do you think Clark will enter the race?
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CarlBallard Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:41 PM
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1. Soon I hope
I'm feeling antsy at the moment.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:44 PM
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2. I've signed up
for the Aug 4 Meet Up. I hope we have something to meet up about.

I think he will run.
I think he will declare by Labor Day.
The sooner the better.

MzPip
:dem:
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:48 PM
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3. I don't know that he's going to do it ...
He might and would be a very good choice but I think his indecision is more of a personal/familial basis rather than political. A run could change the rest of his life in a big way that could perhaps lead to a severe curtailment of his independence as well as miving the whole tribe into the klieg-lit fishbowl.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:03 PM
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6. Someone said
Someone on this board said that she knew someone who said it wasn't like Clark to prolong this if he wasn't serious.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:06 PM
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8. I didn't say he wasn't serious ...
what I said was that it is an extremely big step and he has to consider what it will do to his life and that of his family. Knowing Wesley, I am certain that those considerations are right at the top of his calculations.

Time will tell. I spoke with our aunt (Wesley's and mine) and she knew nothing and he is pretty close to her. So ... it's a lot for a smart fellow to consider, particularly one who has not lived his life in that arena.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:11 PM
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11. I remember reading someone saying
I remember reading someone saying that he wouldn't prolong it if he wasn't serious. In other words, he's not fooling around.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:49 PM
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4. When Dean nominates him for VP
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:49 PM
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5. That would be an unstopable ticket!
:kick:
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:19 PM
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14. Go on
I know I ask people to elaborate a lot, and probably have asked this before, but I'd like you to say why you think that. I try to get a lot of viewpoints, I guess.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:43 PM
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18. I haven't really researched General Clark, yet (I need to do that)
But, from simply a campaign strategy POV, alot of folks seem to like Clark who seem to be less than enamored with Dean. That might mean that Clark might make a good running mate for Dean since Clark might be able to attract the types of folks that General Clark attracts to the Democratic ticket.

From a campaign strategy POV, a few things things about General Clark worry me:
Can this seemingly apolitical man campaign for Vice President of the United States?
Can he give a speech that fires up folks to get out and work for him like Dean can and does?
Can he play political hardball?
Can he fundraise?
Can he defend the policies supported by the ticket?
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:37 AM
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24. Personally, I wish people would knock this sort of talk off.
Edited on Thu Jul-31-03 03:38 AM by BillyBunter
Clark offers a lot more to this country that to simply be a bandaid for Dean's foreign policy and military shortcomings. I like both candidates, but Dean supporters are acting like electoral royalty; meanwhile, there's a long ways to go yet, and Dean has some problems to overcome. It's too early to throw flippant comments out about who is going to be whose VP.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:05 PM
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7. As Soon As Lieberman Drops Out. They Share the Same Vote.
Clark will not win a primary or caucus. Sorry to deflate your hopes. It won't happen.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:09 PM
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9. Give me some of what you're smoking!
Clark would run roughshod over this field. I'm hoping he announces by Labor Day.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:17 PM
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13. I Wish You Luck and Your Man, Too.
I hope he enters, too. He'll only help Dean by pulling votes from Kerry, Gephardt and Lieberman...which is OK with me.

In any event, good luck.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:24 PM
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15. I hope he enters soon, too.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:58 AM
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27. Er.. David.. In both NH and Iowa, the number of undecided voters..
far surpass the percentage of support of any of the candidates. In fact, the number of undecided voters in NH increased over the past month from 19% to 30%. Also, if you check out this link... http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/supporters.htm , you can read letters from people who presently support other candidates, including Dean, Kerry and Kucinich who declare their intention to switch to Clark should he declare.

Heck! Many DUers have stated their intention to switch candidates if Clark declares.

There is a lot of support that Clark can snatch up if he runs. I don't know why you think otherwise. Maybe you can explain.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:12 AM
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29. For the Love Of God
Don't compare Lieberman with Clark

They didn't even have the same position on the Iraq war.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:10 PM
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10. What Do We Know About Clark?
I really like what I've seen of Clark, but what do people know of him. I know his NATO experience, his homeown in AK, his view of the Iraq war -- what about his policies in other areas?

I think he'd be a great VP candidate - comparable to Colin Powell for the repugs -- or even Secretary of State. While I really like him, I just don't know enough about him to say - Presidential Candidate.

What I'd really like is for Clark and Gore to come out together and say - here we are the Gore/Clark ticket. Not that I think it is possible, but it would be great if Gore and Clark were talking about that right now.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:14 PM
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12. That can be an advantage
He doesn't have any past policy decisions, at least one likes like a senator. He'd be standing purely on his views, so the Republicans can't attack him for supporting "the wasteful Program X" or the "unpatriotic So and So Act" or something like that. They'd only have his military record, so it's a lose-lose situation. If they go after that, they are screwed, and if they don't go after that, they don't attack him.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:35 PM
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16. I think it is still a matter of will Clark enter the race
Without money, he doesn't stand a chance. Right now, he is probably trying to determine whether or not he has the financial backing that he will need to make a serious run at the Democratic nomination. I hope that he does. If not, then I think he has two option. He could sit tight and make a bid to be the vice presidential candidate or he could run for the Governor of Arkansas against Mike Huckabee.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:41 PM
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17. Nobody cares.
:boring:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:00 AM
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28. I care. And I'm not "nobody." I'm "somebody."
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:45 PM
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19. September - I heard (book tour and all)
Unless he's pulling a Powell, that'll be the time to do it.
As for those comparing him to Lieberman, Clark opposed the war from day 1.(for one)
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:49 PM
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20. What book?
What book is coming out in September?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 12:01 AM
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21. Clark's book. That's why I am afraid he'd do a Powell
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 12:53 AM
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22. Conventional wisdom says
he'll enter after the summer congressional recess. Just after Labor Day most likely.

As for money, just after his retirement Clark worked for the Stephens Group which furnished the money to get Bill Clinton off the ground. I have seen several things hinting that that will be the case for Clark as well.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:27 AM
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23. If Gore Enters
Clark won't
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:00 AM
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25. When I saw his last interview
When I saw his last interview, I thought he looked flattered, but it didn't look like he has the 'Fire in the Belly' - I don't think he has the ambition. But I think he would take a VP nomination.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:40 AM
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26. By the end of thirty days.
I'm counting the days. The only way I can't see him entering the race is maybe if biden (notice the lowercase spelling) and/or Hillary, enter the race. He may feel that the field is just too crowded at that point.

So, stay out Biden!!!!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:23 AM
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30. IMHO
Clark would be the strongest nominee.

He neutralizes the national security issue... It would be hard to say the former Supreme Allied Commander and decorated Viet Nam War veterean is a "wuss" and if you don't think they will do everything in their power to make our candidate a "wuss" you are in for the mother of all rude awakenings.

Unless the economy gets alot worse if we fail to be seen as responsible on national security middle America will never give us the keys to the White House.

As Edmund Burke said " we must take man as he is not the way we want him to be."
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:07 AM
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31. I think he's hedging his bets on VP
he's probably talking to a couple of different candidates.
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:26 AM
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32. When pigs fly.
JMHO
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