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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:35 PM
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Al Franken will make a HORRIBLE radio personality.
So, Franken is getting his own radio show on that new liberal radio network. Well hoorah. Why will this be nothing but a disaster?

He talks slow. It takes him a while to fully develop what he's trying to say, and he delivers it in mindnumbingly slow fashion.

He's also boring as hell.

His voice gets extremely annoying quite quickly.

Why, out of all the talented liberals out there, would Al Franken get a radio show?

Am I the only one that feels this way? His book was great, he's great for entertaining the troops--but why HIM on the radio? How will he get anyone other than hardcore Democrats to tune in?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:37 PM
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1. I've seen him speak in person and he's great
I've also seen him argue with conservatives (Bill O'Reilly) and get the better of them.

I think he's got a laid-back, Minnesota way about him. I actually prefer Mike Malloy's style-it's more in your face.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:53 AM
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33. My boss was at BookExpo during the famous debate.
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 09:05 AM by blondeatlast
She says Franken just destroyed O'Rielly with his wit and intellect. I've heard the incident on tape, and she seems to be right.

If it's that entertaining on tape, I think he'll do fine on radio.

Did you hear Terry Gross interview him on NPR? He was witty, funny, intelligent, and POLITE. That's pretty tough to juggle.

I can't wait, myself.

Edit: I can't get the file to download, maybe you can:

http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?schedid=195&segid=3609
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:37 PM
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2. That's 75 million democrats
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 11:40 PM by seventhson
that will listen and BUY!

Franken is GREAT!!!

Why such negativity?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:40 PM
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3. I've heard he's going to have a co-host
I agree he'd probably be terrible on his own, I don't think he's done a lot of radio before, it's not something just anyone can do.

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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:43 PM
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55. Al Franken's new co-host is Katherine Lanpher
Lanpher leaves MPR, joins Franken on new network
Deborah Caulfield Rybak
Star Tribune
Published 01/20/2004
http://www.startribune.com/stories/459/4329020.html (subscription)

Katherine Lanpher stepped down today as host of Minnesota Public Radio's "Midmorning." She will join a new politically liberal radio network as satirist Al Franken's co-host on a daily three-hour show to premiere sometime this spring. The network had been calling itself Central Air, but is now using its parent company's name, Progress Media, instead.

``She is the newest member of our team,'' said Mark Walsh, chief executive officer of Progress Media. ``We are very excited.''

"This is my last show," she said at the end of today's program. "I'm moving on to a new opportunity."

Her departure leaves MPR with some big shoes to fill, acknowledged Bill Buzenberg, the network's senior vice president of news: "She's someone who can go from hard news on Iraq to the softest feature with an author or gardening guru."

::snip::

Lanpher joined MPR in August 1998 after 16 years at the St. Paul Pioneer Press, six of them as a columnist. Her previous radio experience was a 16-month stint as the liberal voice on conservative talk radio station KSTP-AM.

Franken, a Twin Cities native and author of the bestselling "Liars and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," confirmed last week that he had agreed to host a show on the network. Franken said his show will be a mix of interviews, listener calls and comedy bits.

At present, Progress Media has signed only one broadcast deal with a station in Chicago. The network says it plans to air 14 to 18 hours of daily programming on stations in New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia and Boston. No Twin Cities stations have been targeted as yet.


You can hear a Lanpher/Franken interview from 10/15/03 - scroll down to October 15 and look at Hour 2 for the audio link:

Lanpher interviews Franken

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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:17 PM
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63. Co-host should be Harry Shearer. They could do Simpsons bits. n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:40 PM
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4. Sorry! but I don't agree with your opinion -
I think Franken is great and rather enjoy listening to the truth.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:44 PM
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5. They need to pick up Malloy
He's looking for a job. Seems like a no brainer.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:29 AM
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24. Malloy will never be hired by this new network
unless he repudiated his previous approach and swore not to say "Have I told you tonight how much I hate these people?" and "Bush Crime Family"

He won't be hired.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:04 AM
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35. Pink Tu Tu Liberal radio owners too?
When the HELL are Dems going to take off the gloves and get in the fight? This non-ending theory of if we play nicey,nice then we'll come out on top. Bull SHIT,if that was true then Limbaugh would have been gone years ago. Savage would have never seen the light of day on radio,they wouldn't hire ex-cons for talk shows.

Jesus,if those owners have a shred of BRAINS they'd have Malloy signed up FIRST. Man....


David
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:45 PM
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6. You're right
If he has a script and follows it he's good but off the cuff he gets muddled but I love him anyway.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:45 PM
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7. Um, Let's Make a List
of Dems on the approved list.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:47 PM
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8. Randi Rhodes
She was on fire today over the treatment of Clark at last nights debate.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:38 AM
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42. I agree with you.......
Randi's the one. She can make mincemeat out of most people when she wants to. And she is soooo smart. Really,really smart. And the gift of gab. Randi should be on nationwide. She talks for 4 hours each week day and is NEVER boring.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 04:52 AM
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27. I wouldn't mind seeing him pair up with
Arianna Huffington again. They were pretty good together and she's smart and quick.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:10 AM
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44. Colin McEnroe
Smart, funny and well-informed on in Hartford in the afternoons after WTIC AM 1080 has Rush preceded by two local Reich Wingers - so , at least we get liberal talk from 3-6pm after 9 1/2 hours of far right talk prior to him.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:36 AM
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50. Alex Bennett
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 10:40 AM by RatTerrier
Practicall invented a number of genres. Started out as a late-night talk host in the late 60's in New York, with a shock format expressing very leftist views.

Went to San Francisco and became a successful morning guy for two decades. Ran an entertaining funhoudse with big name and up-and-coming comedians (Dana Carvey was a nobody when he was frequently on the show), politicians (Willie Brown, Jimmy Carter), porn stars, and singers such as Tori Amos.

His antics are controversial, and incredibly entertaining. He paved the way for guys like Stern.

Last seen on a Clear Channel AM talker (KNEW) a year ago. Unfortunately, he was replaced by syndicated guys after 6 weeks on the air. Perhaps due to his strong anti-Iraq War and anti-Bush views.

Check him out here:

http://www.radiofreejack.com
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:00 PM
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58. I remember Bennett fondly
More than a few times I got some very strange looks while commuting up 101 doubled over with hysterical laughter at the antics of Bennett and any number of stoned comedy club veterans come directly from all nighters and free associating like mad.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:52 PM
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9. He's much funnier than Paul freeking Harvey! :)
(i'm not sure what that means)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:11 AM
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13. Ahh, Paul freeking Harvey.
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 12:16 AM by calimary
I'm afraid I'm stuck with one overriding negative view of him, "beloved" and "revered" radio institution that he is. Yeah, he's an engrossing story-teller and in radio that's important. But I don't care for his politics. Beyond that, though, what I really abhored was something he said back during the OJ Simpson trial.

It was right after the 911 tapes were released of a frantic call Nicole had made when OJ was on another one of his rampages and was breaking down her door and screaming and bellowing (it was in the house in which she lived before she moved to that condo on South Bundy Drive where she was ultimately killed). You could hear her saying things to the effect of being scared shitless and a few other four-letter words. You could hear the terror in her voice, AND you could hear his horrifying tirades CLEARLY in the background. It must have been awful for her. She was afraid for her life and she spoke rather frankly, if you get my drift. The only fucking thing Paul Harvey could say about this was - what a shame that such a lovely woman could use such foul language. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!! NOT A WORD about the vicious stuff that was coming from OJ's mouth, AND the sounds of breaking down the door that you could clearly hear from across the room where she was on the phone. NOTHING! The threats, shouts, terrorizing, the banging and crashing - a complete madman on the other side of that door breaking it down. ANYBODY's blood would have curdled to hear it. Maybe some of you remember hearing that tape. It was utterly chilling. And fucking sanctimonious Paul Harvey had nothing to say about it except to chastise her for having used foul language to describe it to the 911 operator.

From that moment on, I lost ALL respect for Paul Harvey. What a foul old putz. Paul Harvey should be absolutely ashamed of himself for that. SHAME ON HIM!! And I say that as a 25-year radio veteran, myself, for whom he'd otherwise be a respected elder statesman. From that moment on I quit being a Paul Harvey fan. He's done little to redeem himself since then. Just an old scold. Sorry, but he carries no mystique for me.

On edit - back to the subject at hand...

So bring on Al Franken. Yeah, sometimes he's a little slow on the uptake. Sometimes he hems and haws. But it's a start. If he had a cohost that would be great because it would make the pacing a little more zippy. But Al Franken is VERY funny and we need someone with a sense of humor poking holes in the republi-CONS' balloons. Especially since so many radio programming people fall back on the excuse that liberals don't have Limbaugh-strength because we're too serious and not "entertaining" like Limbaugh supposedly is (I do NOT see it, myself - he's not one bit entertaining to me). Al Franken has a lot going for him, and hopefully his show will establish the whole liberal network in a nice, solid way. He has marquee value, too. I'm eager to listen.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:02 AM
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19. PAUL HARVEY SOUNDS LIKE A PERVERT
HE IS A CREEPY F***.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:53 PM
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76. I am reminded that in most instances, people I know who listen to Rush
always start out saying that he's hilarious. Franken is funny. Hopefully he'll get better as time goes on. I watched his debate with O'Really. He did well. As I recall, O'Really sort of stormed off at the end.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:06 AM
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36. My pinkie toe is funnier than him.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:59 PM
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10. I agree. Franken is rich person, and he will not fight the Class War
and the Class War is the rightful domain of the Democratic Party, and they have abandoned it.

We need liberal radio hosts from the middle and lower middle class, ones who have some anger at the rich people in this country. Where is Franken's anger about core democratic issues like erosion of progressive taxation and the welfare state/safety net? He never mentions that kind of thing. He is rich; why should he be mad?
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blurp Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:11 AM
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25. Class war?
The history of all hitherto existing successful societies is the history of class cooperation.

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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:59 AM
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30. the "class war" wasn't started by Democrats
Get it straight.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:47 AM
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54. more like the history of slavery in almost all societies
lotta social-status lovin' sheeple going on!
lotta pack animal social hierarchy loving lizard brains going on!

lotta cooperation going on!
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:05 PM
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61. lol
too funny. Yes the history of the world is one of oppression. The great thing about humans is we can evolve. We don’t have to accept an unfair class based system for eternity.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:08 PM
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62. It takes two to tango.
Bring on the upper class, hat in hand, wanting to help build an America that is as good as Germany is now. Then we can have a nice cease fire and all sing around the fire.

But as it stands right now, if you paid attention to the latest insult from the Senate, there is a class war already being faught. And guess which side has been losing for the last two years?
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:02 AM
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11. As much as I like Franken's message....
He's oratory skills need a good polishin'
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:04 AM
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12. do you really have to ask ?
low pay, improbably chance of success, becoming the object of derission. who would want this job ?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:18 AM
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14. Who can forget the 80s - the "Al Franken" decade?
On his days on SNL (end of the "good 70s", beginning of the suck 80s-current SNL skits), he talked of the "Me decade" of the 70s. At the beginning of the 80s, he declared that it was the "Al Franken" decade.

Really a good sendup of the "me" decade.

Everybody was to stop doing everything just for themselves, and start doing things for "Al Franken".

The more I think about it, the current problem with the Republicans is that they are a direct result of the "me generation" - "Me first!". The people who decided to ask what the country could do for them, not what they could do for the country.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:21 AM
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15. I love him,but the satire is not
going to bring in great audiences (I'm afraid). Worried about it.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:37 AM
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16. He's not boring as hell
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 12:37 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
Joe Lieberman is boring as hell! Al Franken is Fun!!!
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:59 AM
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18. Well he's got a boring delivery..
But I thought he was pretty funny on the Late Show w/ Letterman today. But how can you take him for three hours? It won't be pretty.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:01 AM
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43. So you like Franken, but 3 hours of him would be such a huge problem
that he'd better not even try?

And it seems you consider yourself to be an authority on these matters, as you seem to feel obligated to protect Dems from many hours of Franken - as though people wouldn't be able to make up their own mind about this...
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:59 AM
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17. I think it really depends...
...on the format. I don't think it'll be the 'one guy ranting' format or the 'listener calls' format. I think it'll be more of a 'variety show/sketch comedy' format. He's a pro and he knows lots of pros to do 'bits' on the show. With the right bumper music and clips, the right pace, etc it'll stand a chance of making it. I think he's good choice for host: Minnesota Normal with an edge...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:03 AM
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20. Dig your web site!
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:07 AM
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21. Its clearly NOT a satire.
No, its not a satire or parody, really. You caught me. I'm a freeper. I just alerted the mods, don't bother!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:12 AM
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22. Just makin' sure...
you never know.:shrug:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:24 PM
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74. That's good stuff- LOL!
Thanks for the laugh- great site. I'll bet you there really ARE freeps who think your site is real- too funny!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:26 AM
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23. When he's on track and on target he's great
I've heard him when he really sucks too, and I dont think he has the abilities he needs to do a good talk show
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aeon flux Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 04:44 AM
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26. I saw him on a C-SPAN debate

debating with two shrill but very sharp conservatives, on the issue of bias in the media. This debate was in front of a live audience.

Franken had the audience rolling on the floor for 2 hours straight. I swear I haven't laughed so hard for so long in a long time. And clapping/agreeing at almost everything he said. All the heckles were directed to the two people on the conservative side. the audience wasn't even particularly liberal and yet cheered Franken on. The man is just amazing with an incredible wit.

Do not pre-judge or underestimate Al Franken!


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:10 AM
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37. BookExpo, I suspect.
The audience WAS probably predominantly liberal, since it was made up of booksellers and librarians.

But he's sharp and funny. He'll do just fine.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:01 AM
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28. Us DU'ers may love debating politics
But most people do not. People would much rather listen to mind-numbing music or shock jock type stuff. Even conservative radio talk show hosts like Limbaugh get pretty pathetic ratings. Al Franken and any liberal radio network will be doomed to fail.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:24 AM
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46. That you're taking this side of the argument
is no surprise to "Us DUers".

:eyes:
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:50 PM
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83. You want to rebut it?
It's quite plain that Americans just are not interested in politics. Take a look at TV and radio ratings and see what people watch. MTV's Real World and wrestling are leaps and bounds ahead of any of the cable news channels. Radio also has the same disparity. People just don't care.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:03 AM
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29. Franken does a great job...
...in attacking the Right on the issues the New Democrats won't even talk about. I think it's silly to pronounce him 'dead' before he even starts.

- It might take a while for this type of thing to work...but it certainly doesn't help to go negative on it before it even begins.

- Franken is getting better with age...and you can't really compare him now to his SNL days. If YOU find him 'boring'..then don't listen...but the rest of us are going to give him a chance...and encouragement.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:37 AM
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31. Franken
I think he's great. Though the slow-talking thing can be annoying, it is in a way, part of his charm. The fact that he takes so long to choose his words, often brings him to exactly the right ones. I love it when he immitates Rush Limbaugh. He was on letterman last night, talking about trying to be the first to do drug-free radio.

He's hilarious, no doubt. We all have our own styles. I was going to say, if you don't like Franken, you're likely a right-winger.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:42 AM
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32. Franken might be too intellectual for talk radio, but Moore would be great
Michael Moore goes wild, he would probably do great on the radio if he wanted to waste his time with such things.
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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:01 AM
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34. He is slow but not boring
When he does get a point across, its usually done with wit and a fair amount of originality. I think if its somewhat scripted, at least if the issues are predetermined, he will do well. Especially if hes going up agianst limbaugh
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:12 AM
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38. On the "slow" issue--he definitely wasn't at BookExpo, or he wouldn't
have been able to get a word in edgewise vs. O'Reilly.

I've linked to a a playback elsewhere in this thread.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:17 AM
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39. BTW--CentralAir is going for entertainment, Garofalo may be next to sign.
http://www.centralairmedia.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=38

Lizz Winstead of the "Daily Show"? This, my friends, is getting good.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:21 AM
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40. "The O'Franken Factor" is the name of the show.
Ya gotta love it!

“Quite simply, my plan is to alter the political landscape, drive this radical right-wing president from office and stand as a beacon for ordinary Americans who work hard and play by the rules. Short of that, I’d just like to get on in Albany,” added Franken.

In addition, the network is unveiling another program in its lineup: “Champions of Justice,” co-hosted by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Mike Papantonio, will bring a fresh and entertaining perspective to talk radio from the top legal minds in the country with a focus on informing Americans about the inner workings of corporations and how they influence our daily lives.

“I am excited to be affiliated with Progress Media, which will provide Americans a breath of fresh air and a much needed alternative to the status-quo,” said Kennedy.

“Al Franken and Robert Kennedy Jr. are important ingredients to achieving our core mission: entertaining and engaging programming,” said Walsh.


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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:31 AM
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48. I bet O'Really will sue him for the name of his show
that's wicked funny!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 09:08 AM
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89. He was kinda hoping that he would!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:43 AM
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53. That's PERFECT!
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 10:43 AM by gristy
"The O'Franken Factor"!!! What a great name. Lookin forward to the show. Hope it is replayed sometime in the evening.

Can't figure out what Franken means by this: "Short of that, I'd just like to get on in Albany."

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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:26 PM
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81. self depracating humor n/t
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 09:28 AM
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41. Al Franken can entertain
Which is going to be a primary requirement of a successful radio show. I think he can be quite entertaining, and he is gets very passionate when speaking to his ideological and political beliefs.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:20 AM
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45. Saturday Night Live has lasted 30 years...
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 10:21 AM by Touchdown
Most of those years has been because of Franken's writing and acting. He is the only perennial personality that show has ever had. Did you ever see his inpression of Pat Robertson? It was almost as funny as Akroyd's take on Bob Dole.

Rush (his new stage name) has been bloviating on the radio since, what...1988? Give the man a chance.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:24 AM
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47. A (former) radio guy's perspective
The jury's still out (IMHO) on whether he will succeed in the radio arena.

Keep in mind, a three hour radio show is a totally different beast than TV, print and speeches. It is not as easy as it seems.

Rush Lowbrow succeeded because he is an old radio guy. He just took the stuff he learned on personality-driven AM Top 40 radio, 'morning zoo'-type antics and brought it to a politically-driven talk show arena. That is why his show prospered.

For CA to succeed, they must bring in talk radio pros. Does Janeane Garofalo know how to fill three hours of talk radio per day? Does she know how to balance a format? How well does she do with phones?

Ever wonder how somebody like Howard Stern can fill five hours per day? Like him or not, it is not as easy as it sounds. It is a serious art, and while it sounds like something anybody can do, it isn't.

They really need to look at liberal talent like Mike Malloy, Peter Werbe, Alex Bennett, etc. These people know how to do left-leaning radio.

Radio is not something to be taken for granted. And I hope these people realize this. Otherwise, it will fail miserably, and contribute to the arguement that liberal radio does not work.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:34 AM
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49. What's with all the defeatism?
Isn't this what we said we've been wanting, a liberal counterpoint to conservative radio?

Isn't this what we said we've been wanting, an articulate, persuasive and entertaining spokesman for all things liberal?

Al Franken is more successful at this than most, more than Rhandi Rhodes, more than Mike Malloy. I'm not saying they aren't good at what they do, nor that that shouldn't be a part of this new network if they can. But Al Franken has one thing going for him that no one else has: name recognition with the general public.

And you know what else? Al Franken doesn't get the blowback that others do. Nobody rags on him for being a liberal in the same way that they rag on us. He gets away with it. How does he do that? By being thoughtful. By choosing his words carefully. By being polite and businesslike, but not a doormat. By using precisely the qualities you are criticizing here as "boring as hell."

Whether or not any given audience will agree with Franken (say a bad night on Letterman or Leno perhaps), they certainly don't blame him for saying whatever is on his mind, and even find themselves agreeing with him.

Sorry, I don't want just a liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. It's not just his content that puts me off. It's his entire style: his delivery, his voice, his arrogant insistance that he and he alone has all the answers, his unwillingness to see his own flaws and incompleteness.

We deserve far better. I for one will support Al Franken.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:38 AM
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51. No defeatism
Just don't want to see a repeat of Jim Hightower and Mario Cuomo. We all know how that turned out.

Rather, I just want to see them do it right. After all, Randi Rhodes is a great example of showing how it can be done. Another example to look at is KGO in San Francisco. They also do well with a mostly-liberal format. THIS is what they should be looking at.

I still hope Franken does well.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:41 AM
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52. Since we have jack crap control over the issue, let's see first, eh?
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 10:42 AM by JanMichael
You know, let him suceed, or fail, on the merits of his show, not your opinion.

I'll admit that I wish that they went with actual talk-show host, but they want instant name recognition, so I guess it matters little what I think too.

Maybe they'll be (R)evolutionary in their adjustments to feedback?
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:47 PM
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56. Mike Webb, should go national! He would be great! Don't you think?
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:55 PM
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57. You have bad taste?
Franken is a great talent.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:03 PM
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60. doesn't mean he's going to do well, Sterling
it just means he can write...that doesn't necessarily translate into a radio personality
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:35 PM
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67. He has always been great on SNL.
I see no reason to think he will not be entertaining.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:56 PM
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79. Mike Malloy is entertaining
His show goes off the air next month.

I hope it works out but there better be a Plan B
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:01 PM
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59. Bullcrap! Franken is great, fast on his feet, entertaining.
I look forward to his show.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:27 PM
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64. Requiring a Longer Attention Span Doesn't Equate with "Boring"
I have sat through a couple of 45 minute FRANKEN presentations on C-SPAN and have not found it "boring" or his voice "extremely annoying". As for "all the talented liberals out there", he has been in the small group at the top of being out there for us AS one of us----why NOT him. As for getting OTHER than hardcore Dems, he has a pleasantness and geniality that is appealing to people in general, people who might be toward the----GASP-------Center, and perhaps even beyond. There was around of these same allegations against FRANKEN a month or two ago, and I don't understand why.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:48 PM
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65. Opinions differ. I think Franken will do a good job.
EOM
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:54 PM
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66. I don't agree
eom
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 03:54 PM
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68. I think boring is an interesting choice of words, don't you?
He was rarely boring on SNL, and even created some of their most famous bits. His books are never boring, and neither was his appearance on CSPAN where he took on Bill O'Reilly. He certainly wasn't boring on the recent Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, getting more laughs than any of the other comedians and even keeping Nick DiPaolo in line. So, I guess your definition of boring must be worlds away from mine.
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sal Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 04:58 PM
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69. Like Rush Limbaugh talks fast?
Or developes an idea quickly? What the hell are you talking about?

Stop attacking people who are actually trying to do something positive. It ain't your money, and you don't have to listen.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:56 PM
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80. Rush talks fast when he, or a rebub, is
on the defensive. Or close to an election. Watch for it.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:08 PM
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70. I think Franken has a cadence that might work well on radio
He has this kind of slow, methodical way of crafting his bits that kind of keeps a level of suspense going, which all comes together in a wry and funny punchline. It might fail, sure, but I think Al's comic pacing might work really well on radio.

I know that the standard on radio is the mile-a-minute blowhard whose mouth is connected directly to the brain stem, but Franken brings something new to the shock-jock medium that could be very compelling.

I'm just glad that he's getting a chance to try. That's the only way in a medium like radio; there's no way to know until you try, and it might take a while for both his style to mature into a radio format, and for an audience to become acclimated to him as well.

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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:18 PM
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71. I disagree....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:19 PM
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72. He & Dennis Miller should do a TV food-fight "debate" show...
Now THAT might get some ratings.
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Honesthumanbeing Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:22 PM
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73. Franken is quick witted and funny
He'll make an excellent radio personality.
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fumetti Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:46 PM
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75. Stumbling out of the gate
Jumping out and saying "we're liberal radio" may have killed this project already.

What liberals NEEDED was to get out their message and label it "common sense." Not label it "liberal version of Limbaugh", which is what it sounds like.

Our cause needs to get into the ears of the middle-of-the-road public, and even they can see bias when it's telegraphed ahead of time.

And when/if Al Franken's voice DOES sound annoying on the radio, we're doomed. (I can see why someone might not like the sound of his voice. Sometimes he sounds great, sometimes he sounds whiny--and I'm a fan of his.)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:54 PM
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77. I'm a fan of his too.
Like I said, I loved his book, etc.
Just don't think he'll do well as THE main representative of liberal radio.
This thread is nothing against him.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:55 PM
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78. It will have a ton of good-natured humor though....
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 05:57 PM by Dr Fate
...think "Saturday Night Live"- he used to write for them, and his skits he wrote are comedy classics-

Think about all the interesting guest stars he has acess to as compared to Rush- this will pull in moderate listeners too...

I think many moderates may like the show for the laughs- it will be funnier than Limbaugh or Imus...
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:41 PM
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84. Welcome to Central Air
Welcome to Central Air


Central Air is a new network focused on producing and syndicating programs nationwide and we are poised to change the landscape of talk radio. We plan to debut in March 2004 an entertaining and enlightening brand of talk that is unlike anything heard before.


Our primary goal is to entertain and inform the listening public with an irreverent twist. Political and popular satire, hard-hitting parody and celebrity-fueled interviews will ensure that Central Air programs stand out as different, interesting and entertaining.


Using the nation's top comedy performers, sharpest political commentators and knowledgable experts from the worlds of business, sports, science, politics, and entertainment, Central Air is out to balance the discussion on our country's airwaves with politically progressive talk.
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waterman Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:40 PM
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82. No he won't - eom
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:00 PM
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85. O'Franken Factor
I think Franken's hilarious. I think his show will be great. He's smart, quick and sexy. I agree with someone else here who said it would ahve been good to hear him paired with Arianna Huffington. But I like the match they have now.

I also think they should try to get Jerry Quickley, from KPFK. Now he's a *true* Limbaugh from an alternate universe, but a lot funnier and obviously smarter.
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hot2trot Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 08:00 PM
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86. Why
Al is good at speaking and he can do a good job for us.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:17 PM
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87. I Like Al Franken, But I Have My Doubts
Radio is a lot different than television. As Mario Cuomo proved, you can't just put somebody in a radio booth and expect greatness. We will have to see whether or not Franken has the ability and temperment to make this a success. I hope that he does.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:57 AM
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88. Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean.
If he doesn't get the nomination, that is what he needs to do.
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