Graham: Dubya accepting responsibility for Niger because of poll numbers?

[GBD4]

http://www.grahamforpresident.com/news/0307/0307301-1.html

<<But I ask, why is he changing his story now? Are his poll numbers going down? Why, after weeks of denying, has this President done a complete flip-flop and now admits he told the country something that was completely false in order to go to war?

If the President thinks this will end the controversy, he's completely wrong. It only raises more questions about what kind of cover-up has gone on inside the White House in the last few weeks in order to try to shield the President from facing culpability. And why now is the President changing his story? The American people won't accept this.>>

[neuvocat]

1. I think it means that

Bush will try to parlay this into a rise in the polls: a man of integrity owning up to his mistakes, being a man of true charachter and courage, blahblahblahblah...

Problem is though he basically admits that his reason for sending men and women to die is bogus.

That's how I'm seeing it anyway.

[King_Crimson]

2. The good Senator...

didnt't get to hear the snide remark Pete Domanici made in reference to him last week after he left the committee hearing on the 9/11 report. Graham had just lambasted Bush for leaving the 28 pages blank...and the asshole Domenici said it's good that "Mr. Graham can make these accusations and be so boisterous...after all he's running for President so I guess that entitles him to carry on like that"! What a scumbag! Then Saxby Chambliss started in on Graham and I turned it off...I can't stand the site of that puke! Of course they made sure to attack Graham after he left the room to participate in the on-line discussion.

[coralrf]

3. Spin is Spin....

when a Dem does it or a Gooper..its bullshit.

"this President done a complete flip-flop and now admits he told the country something that was completely false in order to go to war?"....

Did Bush say that he said it to "go to war" ? No. He just said that he accepted the fact that it was an error and he said it. Sure Bush is full of shit..he said it for exactly the reason Graham said he did...but he did not say anything like what Graham said he said. Fuck you Graham...how are you any different?

[Walt Starr]

5. I love when Bush apologists out themselves

Really, it's just so cool.

[lynndew2]

11. I know you are a G-D here on DU

But if you are a true writer and journilist, then you know that shrub never said anything was a lie today. He said he accepts resposnability for anything he says. Tony Blair still stands behind his intellegence and that is what he said in the SOTU speech. I am not by any means a bush apoligist but I also see the truth. On PBS tonight tim russert reported that 56% of the people think all this crap is just playing politics. 30% thought it was true.(new poll from wall street journal i think) Why cant we stop this stupid negative campain and ask our canidates to stand for something. We do not stand a chance of winning if all we do is complain and you as a guru here could help by changing the attitudes to that of ideas instead of blame. A message is needed. Sorry if i offended you but from what I have seen you are revered on DU. Please help. Thank you, Lynn

[lkinsale]

15. Walt Starr is revered on DU?

Wow, Walt!

*belated curtsy*

I didn't know that!. ;)

Lynn, my dear, Bob Graham has a message. He said if Bush accepts responsibility for giving false information, then he needs to hold someone accountable for it. But the truth is, Bush doesn't really accept the responsiblity, he just says that he does and hopes we won't notice that he and his staff either screwed up inexcusably or lied. When our soldiers are dying, it's not blame, it's our duty to question the mistakes that Bush has made.

We don't need the kind of incompetence and game-playing that Bush and Rice have shown us when our national security is at stake.

P.S. Also, you will be more persuasive if you make certain you spell most of your words correctly. This is simple and easy to do, and will help you to be taken seriously. It's hard to look past so many mispellings to figure out what you mean.

[lynndew2]

17. Thank you for never answering what I asked.

And you are right I mispelled cause that seems to be the tendancy on this board. You again only said that accusations where the answer. WE NEED A MESSAGE!!! And no one on here and much more important. NO one Running is offering one. Maybe you need to check your reading skills if you are going to offer me advice on english and ignore the rest of the others on here. SHOW ME THE MESSAGE!!!! thank you.

[GBD4]

19. Perhaps this would be something you're looking for?

http://www.grahamforpresident.com/economic_plan/Graham_Economic_Plan.pdf

[lkinsale]

26. You are ignoring the message, it would seem

The message to Bush is, we need someone competent and honest to handle our security and foreign affairs. We need to stop offering tax cuts to the rich and put them where they will make an impact toward helping the economy recover, which is at the middle class level. We need to swallow Bush's stupid pride and get the UN and NATO into Iraq. We need to address the deterioration of our country's infrastructure, schools and homeland security by PUTTING THE MONEY THERE, instead of wasting it on this misadventure in Iraq.

ALL of the candidates have said all of these things.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE. If you don't like it, fine. Don't pretend there isn't one.

and btw, "where" should be "were"

[Bandit]

28. "I mispelled cause that seems to be the tendancy on this board."

That is total out and out Bullshit. You mispell because you are a lousy speller. Your vocabulary is juvenile and your knowlege of the Democratic candidates is appalling. There has been a constant message from virtually every candidate. That message is that the US is on the wrong track in all areas. Environmentally, economically, and foreign policy. I think when you say no message you are referring to some jingoistic sound bite. You really have to listen to more than Fox News to get a true idea of what is going on.

[NicRic]

23. Ultimate arrorgance !

After dozens of our troops have died and thousands of inocent people ,bush thinks just saying ,yes I made a booboo is good enough. Perhaps all of the families of the dead should get together and file a wrongful death suite against the liar ! They impeached Clinton for lying about sex, and yet bush thinks he should not be held accountable for the lives he is responsible for erasing from this earth. Anyone that thinks bush is a man of Honor ,has their head up their arse !

[Walt Starr]

20. I've never claimed to be a journalist

And Bush apologists just don't fly with me.

There is no god.

[robbedvoter]

16. 'That you, O'really? "No spin zone?"

Le'me edumacate ya: bush never admitted he lied and he started a war for no reason. Assuming responsibility is more than saying :"OK, I said it - watcha gonna do to me now?"
What Graham said is true: this cannot end the controversy - people die in Iraq every day for bush's 16 words (the rest of the SOTU was pretty much BS as well). So take your "no difference to someone who cares (Ralph someone?)

[DemLikr]

4. I'm increasingly impressed with Graham's willingness to challenge Shrub

on Iraq and 9/11.

Hmmm...perhaps he'll make a believer of me yet.

[Walt Starr]

6. How does the DLC feel about Graham?

Basic rhetoric from the evil infiltrators of the Democratic Party seems to indicate the DLC has nothing but contempt for Graham.

He sounds like my sort of candidate. Maybe I should hedge my bets and donate to both Dean and Graham.

Maybe Dean/Graham can be a reality in 2004.

[w4rma]

10. Graham is a pit bull!

Dean/Graham would be awesome!

[Brian Sweat]

25. Um, Graham is like a founding member of the DLC

[lkinsale]

27. The New Democrats

Don't ask me what the difference is.

But the DLC is complaining about his economic plan, so I guess he goes his own way.

[BeFree]

7. I thought the White House was past this?

So why are we still hearing about this?

Geez, Condi rolled today also. Took responsibility, she did. Well, kinda. She said that her aide screwed up. And that Tenet screwed up too boot.

Now awol takes the blame? Round and round they go. Where it stops, I think just about everyone knows.

Glad to see Sen. Graham staying on the attack....thought he would. We need to support him. Tell everyone you like what the Senator from Florida is saying.

[lkinsale]

8. And concrete support!

Contribute to Graham For President (Enter "Laura Kinsale" as your BobCat if you want to give me credit toward my pledge to raise 1k for Bob.)

My goal for August is 3 $25 contributions a week. This is a campaign and a man worth supporting.

[tomp]

24. that's right. he had moved on, now he has moved back.

why doesn't he just move, like to antarctica.

[Pepperbelly]

9. kick

:kick:

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. You can tell when someone is a threat to W & Co

by the number of apologists that show up on a thread. To me it's a good indicator that we are hitting a sore spot.

[David Zephyr]

13. Senator Bob Graham Kicks Some More Ass.

John Kerry and Joe Lieberman should take a page out of Senator Graham's play book: Attack Bush not your fellow Democrats.

Graham continues to win my respect.

[dansolo]

14. To take the heat off of Condi

The longer the story dragged on, the louder the cries would be for Condi's resignation. They are hoping by Bush admitting responsibility, people will stop looking more closely at Condi's lies and ineptitude.

[TankLV]

18. He "accepted responsibility" like Lott's apology.

Just so many mindless "words".

[robbedvoter]

21. Much less than that. Lott at least admitted that it was wrong

and feelings were hurt by his words. W never admitted to doing anything wrong, let alone people getting killed because of his lies (I was going to war even without the uranium lies, so there!)

[Ouabache]

22. woohoo, Graham says it : FLIP-FLOP !!

ALL the Dem candidates need to say it LOUD.

Bush and people in his misadminstration are constantly flip-flopping on their positions. They 'waffle' all the time. They spin out one lie and then flip flop to what is probably just another lie sometime later. There are a myriad examples of them doing this stuff.

ie. Gonna smoke out Osama vs. Osama not important.
more examples from the economy, hundreds.

Why can't all the Dem candidates get on the same page talking like this? I wish they would.

Unified message, and then followup with their plans that would be better than this mish-mash, mush mouth, clap-trap from Bu$h and Co.