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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:01 PM
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Is it impossible for Bush to unite this country ?
And how dangerous is it for our nation to be divided as it is now? Abraham Lincoln talked about how a house divided against itself cannot stand. But the question is, does George W Bush even care that our nation is divided? Because by division, he can conquer. This is a serious question America needs to face. Can Bush unite the nation? And isn't that more important than whether or not they think he is a strong leader against the terrorists?

He had the opportunity after he was selected by the Supreme Court. However, he chose to be partisan and confrontational. He has done great harm to our country, regardless of what people think about his job in the war on terrorism. The big picture is very blurred with George W Bush.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:06 PM
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1. I'd say it's pretty late.
Forget his campaign rhetoric, this is one divisive fellow. I agree whole-heartedly with some remarks, Wes Clark made the other day:

"I think we're at risk with our democracy," Clark told an audience of about 500 people at a fund-raiser at the Westin Galleria hotel. "I think we're dealing with the most closed, imperialistic, nastiest administration in living memory.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/01/14/2003087572
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:09 PM
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2. I would agree with the General....
But how can we get the people to see the Big Picture?
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:45 PM
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27. General Clark's words:
"I think we're dealing with the most closed, imperialistic, nastiest administration in living memory."

Man talking about summing it all up!
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:09 PM
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3. "Uniter not a divider". What a contemptible lie.
W is the most polarizing president in living memory.
The parties are farther apart than ever before.

It took a Bush to wake us up, but we're awake now,
and damn mad--that's the only good thing to result from
this man's madness.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:14 PM
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6. Read Camus' "Letter to a German Friend"
It could just as easily be entitled "Letter to an Amerikan Bushevik".

Read it.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:20 PM
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10. Will go on a hunt for it now.
Unless there's a link?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:38 PM
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22. No link of text...it must still be making $$$ in print
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0394442792/104-7541673-0438315?v=glance&st=*

This is the only source I can find.

And yes, I also believe (though it has been awhile) that the fourth letter is the one of which I am speaking.

But perhaps this book is at your local library.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:47 AM
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33. Yep, the library has it, and all four letters are
contained therein. (Hold placed, very cool.)

:hi:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:11 PM
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4. He has united it as much as is possible

Just review everything that has happened since 9-11.

Look out your window.

Point your browser to the Washington webcam of your choice.

Compare what you see to recent video footage of Caracas.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:13 PM
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5. Yes. Impossible.
However he or his Imperial descendants will try to unify the nation in the same way Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union tried. To silence or Gulag or murder those who disagree with the Emperor.

(it should be interesting to see just what Emperor Arnold or Emperor George P. Caligula is going to come up with to accomplish these goals in new ways that won't make people think of the Soviets or Nazis, bad PR you know. I mean there are only so many ways you can "disappear" a minimum of 20% of the population)

There is no peace with Tyrants and Dictators. There is no compromise with Totalitarians like the Busheviks if we are to remain a Free People.

The Democrats, so utterly confused and believing they live in the Old American Republic, continually try to compromise with Totalitarian Monsters who laugh at them for their liberal weakness. Undoubtedly the laugh echoes Hitler's laughing at the pathetic German Social Democrats, playing their liberal games as if they werent dealing with someone who wanted them "gone" and would make it so as soon as he got the chance.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:16 PM
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7. He blew it long ago...
Not a chance. I don't think he has the ability. That uniter not a divider stuff was a load of crap to make him seem like an ok guy. He's really a cutthroat politician dedicated to the moneyed interests who put him in power.

If Bush had acknowledged right from the beginning the obvious problems with the 2000 election and had pledged to fix things, maybe I would've had some respect for him.

I know it's naive, but what should have happened is that Bush and Gore should've come out for an open and full recount of Florida (and any other close state) and let the chips fall from there.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:17 PM
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8. I sincerely hope he never does
bush has done great harm to this nation through division and polarization, true.

But it pales in comparison to the harm this nation would do to the world were we truly united under such a leader.

There were a few terrible weeks in 2001 when I feared he just might turn this nation into a singleminded nazi freak show overnight, and lead us on some mad Anschluss of Canada. Thank all that is good, people woke up before the worst could happen.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:19 PM
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9. And he acted like he had won with a mandate....
and the Republicans in the House and Senate agreed with his divisive politics. They said to half of America, "Screw you!" One wonders if we can survive 4 more years of this political mindset?
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:20 PM
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11. I cant ever recall the country being this splintered.
Kinda scary.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:26 PM
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12. He's a puppet...not a uniter...his pr folks are doing the gods, gays and
guns approach to split people into not really following "policies of importance"

He is not takling about job retention, healhcare madicare reform scam, deficts are out of hand, trade deficits unreal.


They would rather we NOT focus on issues
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:28 PM
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13. If he keeps screwing up he will
unite the country in a total impeachment of his sorry *.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:29 PM
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14. I think he thinks everybody loves him
and all those protestors are wackos.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:37 PM
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15. There is no way.
He has done so many terrible things... he has so many angry... I don't see how any one of us can unite behind him. Even another attack on the country... I think people will blame him rather than rally behind him.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 05:40 PM
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16. LOL
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RealAngoraFlora Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:02 PM
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17. Was it divided under Clinton?
Did Clinton unite us?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:19 PM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:31 PM
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21. He tried. Bush doesn't even try.
It wasn't Clinton that created the division. There is an origin to the division and the leader is supposed to recognize that.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:24 PM
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19. too late
for some of us.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:31 PM
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20. I don't think * cares...
Here's a man who outright said that he doesn't have to explain or defend his actions... that others may have to explain to him but what he thinks is so way cool about being pResident is that he never has to explain himself.

I don't think he cares if the nation is divided. I don't even think he cares if well over half of us hate even the very sight of him. He has the power. He doesn't need to concern himself with what anybody else thinks. He just does what he pleases. We could be shooting one another in the streets and he would just keep on like the energizer bunny... pants. HE DOESN'T CARE!!!

Why on earth do Democrats even imagine that * plays fair?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:56 PM
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23. He may end up uniting Amerika
against him. But first how bad does it have to get?
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BrendaM Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:34 PM
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24. Yes. It will take a Democrat to fix the mess
Any of the nine will do. Just pick one and establish some rules that decrease the rich and poor and all will be well. None of us should have more or less than any of us.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:37 PM
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25. "None of us should have more or less than any of us."????????
What do you mean by that? is that what you think the Democratic Party stands for? Who have you been listening to? :)
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:24 AM
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34. Darn, you figured out all us Democrats are commie-pinkos
You're so smart!

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:39 PM
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26. He did it once,and he could do it again
For a brief few weeks, our country was united. That was immediately after 9/11. I think he had approval ratings near 85%...

And he could experience that same level again...


But I shudder at the thought.


And, that is the only way he could unite the country.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:46 PM
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28. That was not unity
That was fear masqerading as unity
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Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:47 PM
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29. Sure Bush could unite this country with one statement
"I resign, and I'm takin' my whole cabinet with me"
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:50 PM
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30. I'd prefer We're Guilty Your Honor, Please Execute us in Texas
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crazycat911 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:54 PM
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31. Never
Look at the polls.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 10:03 PM
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32. What's the polls got to do with it ??
You don't believe those, do you??
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:00 AM
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35. he's not even trying
by going after blacks, the poor, greens.

Any national unity he has provided, is due to fear of a manufactured external threat.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:01 AM
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36. I think that's what his Great Space Initiative was intended to do
Unfortunately it just ain't working that well, is it? He's just picking up another one of Poppy's failures (like he did with Iraq), and even the press is picking up on it (here and there). Rover must be running out of semi-original ideas.
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