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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:51 PM
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ACLU stands up for Rush Limbaugh! Rush welcomes them.
http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=14698&c=27

PALM BEACH, FL - In a motion filed today, the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida said state law enforcement officers violated Rush Limbaugh’s privacy rights by seizing the conservative radio talk show host's medical records as part of a criminal investigation involving alleged “doctor-shopping.”

“Limbaugh’s case demonstrates that the ‘War on Drugs’ is not working,” said Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “This case provides a stark example of how the government chooses to prosecute non-violent drug offenses, rather than provide treatment for drug users.”



Hell just froze over....
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:53 PM
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1. Hey, good times
The ACLU does what is right. They are not an arm of the Democrats.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:56 PM
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2. I'm glad the ACLU is fighting the war on drugs
too bad they don't see what a drug warrior Limpballs was and why he should not be aided at a time like this. Limbaugh creates the situation he's in, and he should have to pay for it according to the terms HE laid out in his vitriolic attacks over the years.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:58 PM
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5. I've of the mind that two wrongs don't make a right
And while and empathize (and how!), the fact that the laws are crappy does not change, simply by the fact that the person under attack from them now supported them in the past. Makes me feel less sympathetic for him, though.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:07 PM
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8. the fact that you feel any sympathy is ridiculous
there's no sympathy for Limbaugh...he's fomented and ensured the stength and resiliency of the Drug War....he should pay the price he asked everyone else to pay

and willingly! I mean, WHAT A FUCKIN HYPOCRITE! We're supposed to stand by and feel sorry for putzboy now? I don't think so.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:20 AM
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29. Or, maybe we should treat him according to the terms that
we've laid out.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:35 AM
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30. to what end?
how does this change life for everybody else? how does saving Pigboy's civil rights help the THOUSANDS and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS that don't get the special treatment by the ACLU? rights trampled on in accordance with the views Limburger and his right-wing buddies have espoused for a decade...

I think he should get the max penalty,just like his fellow Floridian, Noelle Bush.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:57 PM
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3. well this should shut the goddamned freepers up
The ACLU is the last vestige of freedom in this country.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:57 PM
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4. wonder how the freeps will react
They'll either

-ignore this case of ACLU/RW cooperation, just like they tend to when Bob Barr speaks out against the Patriot Act

-or, they'll do the fembot thing from Austin Powers -- start smoking and sparking and eventually explode. That'd make my day.
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Onward Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:05 PM
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6. Could this be tough on Rush?
Here's my thought. Simply by accepting (and not rejecting) this support from the ACLU, could it be that Rush might be seen as compromised, or willing to be compromised, by some of his audience?

My guess is that if he senses this might happen, he'll look for a way to go after the ACLU, either now or in the future.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:06 PM
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7. maybe just as importantly, how will rush react?
he wont bew able to use the aclu as a whipping boy anymore, not with any credibility anyway.

i see this as nothing but a plus...
a plus for the aclu doing what is right
a plus against the war on some drugs
a plus against rush blaming the aclu for every wrong that he sees
etc etc
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:15 PM
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11. Mildly
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:23 PM
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14. Wow, they just don't get it, do they?
Some of them did, but many didn't. I especially like the couple idiots who say the ACLU saying it is 'odd' is the ACLU admitting that they have a left bias. They don't understand that it's 'odd' for them to defend Rush because Rush has spent the last 12 years calling the ACLU un-american, communist, and other derogatory names, and has never given them credit for any good.

And of course, a few freepers also refuse to see the ACLU as good, and say that the ACLU only helps conservatives when it's high profile and helps the ACLU's image, like Col. North.

How can people live in such a constant miasma of foggy ignorance?

I don't get it.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:10 PM
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9. even hypocritical assholes have rights. n/t
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:16 PM
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12. right answer n/t
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:13 PM
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10. good for the ACLU
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:19 PM
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13. quick!
Quick!

Someone compile a list of anti-ACLU statements that Rush & his dittoheads have made over the years.

I still support the ACLU 100%. This is actually quite subversive of them.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:00 PM
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15. Interesting freeper 'logic'
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 04:02 PM by Cannikin
"According to what was said in Rush's hearing, a major use of going into a person'a medical records to see if a crime was committed is in the case of DUI. If the drunk gets hurt and winds up in the hospital, the only way to prove DUI is through the medical records. So if the ACLU somehow wins, all the drunks walk... ( or stumble as the case may be )"

""Politically motivated or not, the ACLU will have to fight "probable cause" and even Black did not go after that - his attack is that they should have used less "intrusive means" to get the info, NOT that they did not have a right to it."
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:26 PM
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16. Rush is a big fat druggin hypocrite.
His dittoheads must be beside themselves with angst. An old saying: they don't know whether to shit or go blind!
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:28 PM
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17. Rush is also an example of how the US education system is not working.
He is truly an example of many things...few of which are good.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:38 PM
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18. Until drug laws are changed...
...I think Limbaugh's records are open game for investigative purposes, regardless of who he is. I'd say the same about a non-celebrity. Now, do I think locking up those with drug problems is the answer? Nope. Odd that, with Limbaugh's help, the "War On Drugs" may finally come to an end.

BTW, if Limbaugh is so squeaky clean with regard to doctor shopping, why did his lawyer admit to paying over $4 mil in blackmail money to the housekeeper?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:41 PM
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19. Reminds of me when they defended the Nazis
Anyone else remember that? When the ACLU took the case of the Nazi Party, who had been banned from marching in Skokie? It was a pretty cut&dried 1st Amendment case, expreesion and assembly.

Also, the lawyer representing the Nazis was Jewish. :evilgrin:

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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:46 PM
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20. More freeper opinions....


"I can only conclude that Rush must be on the wrong side of this one."

"ACLU politics--pooey! Something's rotten in Denmark, oops Florida! Wonder if the ACLJ is whipping some ACLU butt to the point where the ACLU wants to soften their image before election--the thought makes me want to puke."
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:56 PM
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21. Another case the RW never mentioned, ACLU forced a sheriff in a nearby
county here to permit prisoners to have bibles in their cells (there had been a rule against it.)

I doubt Pat ROBert$on ever mentioned it either.
:grr:
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 12:23 AM
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22. has anyone heard or seen a transcript from his show today?
I checked earlier but didn't see anything. Obviously he had to have some callers bring it up if he didn't. What is he saying or going to say about this?
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 12:40 AM
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23. I think this shows how truely devoted the ACLU is.
Even though the thought of Rush gaining benifit makes me wanna hurl.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 12:42 AM
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24. Well, we're all God's Chidren -
n/t
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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 12:54 AM
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25. The beauty of this
Is that Limbaugh will be ruined, and the ACLU wins by doing the right thing and defending him. That will be a very powerful and lingering image when people reflect on Rush's career.

Best case scenario for Rush right now is that somehow, magically, Jeb steps in and saves his fat ass. The reality is that Jeb's dumbshit brother is drowning in his own credibility issues and isn't overly concerned; Rush is not going to get a lot of sympathy right now. In fact, he's probably something of a pariah right now to Rove.

Rush will not ever be Rush again after this. He is facing a substantial prison sentence.

Meanwhile, the ACLU does the right thing and wins at Rush's career-ending expense. Beautiful I say.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 12:57 AM
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26. Reality: Narcissist Rush will use them for his benefit then screw them
It amazes and disappoints me that they would defend someone who, from all indications essentially lacks a conscience. Hes only sorry when hes caught, and hes only grateful when someone has something he needs.

A narcissist is a professional user. They use, flatter, suck the marrow out and then ride on as if they never knew the person (or organization) they just royally screwed. The Democrats could learn a thing or two here as well.

We all want to hold on to the illusion that some people can change. They probably could if they wanted to. But narcissists dont ever change, unless they have to, and even then, its usually momentary, and highly conditional.

I would imagine there are MANY more worthy people to defend that will in turn, actually appreciate it, than Rush Limbaugh.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 01:18 AM
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27. I dont think rush should go to jail
for putting what ever he wants to in HIS OWN grotesque fat body
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:06 AM
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28. I do, just so he can put his money where his big mouth is..
Here's some of Rush's 'Undeniable truths'

Poverty is not the root ("rut") cause of crime.

There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish those who do not.

If you commit a crime, you are guilty.

Morality is not defined by individual choice.

I am not arrogant.


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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:07 AM
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31. They're not hypocrites like Rush....
:-)
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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:09 AM
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32. "The Rush-ACLU Files"- part 1
So I listened to Rush Limbaugh today on my way home from work.
He talks of this news article, about a couple whose christmas decorations were vandalized and stolen. The articles title was "SUV Driving Man Steals Christmas Decorations." Being that they have no description of the guy other than he drove an SUV (and they are trying to get a description of the SUV from a surveillance camera nearby) in the title they called him SUV Driving Man. Makes sense to me. If I was publishing a newspaper SUV Driving Man is a much catchier title than Man. Anyways....Rush goes on to say that it is obviously an attempt by some "ACLU Nutball" who stole these decorations to make people hate SUV's and to politicize christmas and christmas decorations. HOW STUPID IS THAT? That is seriously grasping at straws there. The article says nothing about the ACLU. In fact it's primarily about how the couple had so many decorations and vandalism used to happen in the neighborhood a few years ago (hence the security camera). Now I can only tell you what I heard Rush say on the air, since I can't seem to find the article on his website, but Rush seems to think this has deep routed ACLU links and is all a conspiracy to brainwash us. Thank You for Saving Us From Stupidity Rush.

http://homepage.mac.com/meisaj/iblog/C836012482/E1782113344/

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