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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:37 PM
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When does Ted Kennedy get vindicated?
I wish someone would step up and publicly vindicate Ted Kennedy, who was absolutely savaged by the right wing for claiming that the whole Iraq War "was cooked up in Texas long before 9/11".




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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:40 PM
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1. Soon, please
n/t
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wt312000 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:59 PM
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2. Well
It's kind of hard to get past TK's credibility problem. He's never really been able to talk about vindication with the death of that woman on his hands. It's too bad, really.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:03 PM
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3. Ted Kennedy has no credibility problem.
You have jumped to an incorrect conclusion based on right-wing propaganda.

George Bush has a real credibility problem.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:08 PM
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9. The Chappaquiddick insinuation is absurd.
People who value their lives do not drive off bridges into rivers for any reason. It's that simple.
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picus9 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:27 PM
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12. It's not how he drove off,
It's what he did after the fact. I'm fascinated by the Kennedys, they do have a lot of skeletons in their closets. Albeit they aren't teh only ones.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:49 PM
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14. What did he do?
Or rather, what do you "believe" he did?
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picus9 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:46 PM
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18. One thing he failed to do was act decisively.
That cost him the eventual presidency. Do you believe every word of his speech cooked up in a post-accident Kennedy pow-wow?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/kennedys/index.html
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:17 PM
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5. Most young people
don't even know he got thrown out of college for cheating either.

I'm not a big fan.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:34 PM
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7. most people
don't know Bush went AWOL, and lied about war and taxcuts.

now who's got the credibility problem?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:50 PM
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17. No doubt Bush is pretty awful
The defense of Kennedy is to say Bush is worse? I guess I'll agree with that, though talk about faint praise.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:13 PM
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10. There's alot of you guys around today.
Something troubling you?
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picus9 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:25 PM
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11. too true you are right.
Mary jo Kopechnie
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:29 PM
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13. I would suggest there is a credibility problem
and it isn't with Senator Kennedy.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:03 PM
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16. Maybe your young enough never to have made a serious mistake
or to have been close enough to one to get hurt. If so, beware, 15 seconds and stupid a stupid choice or careless statement can change your life.

Personally, I think its a terrible thing that she didn't survive the crash. Its also a terrible thing that Laura Bush killed her boyfriend. At my advanced age (I am now measuring based on whats left rather than on how far I've come) I am able to see that in the aftermath he still did some good with his life.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:04 PM
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4. Well, about the same time Bill Clinton does, which I estimate
to be about the 12th of Never. They won't let it happen.
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RememberTheCoup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:22 PM
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19. Too true... (nt)
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:32 PM
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6. with him being more concerned about 14,000,000 children in the US..
being hungry every night, then the nomination of 4 far-RW judges.

it's about time he got vindicated.

/end sarcasm
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:55 PM
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8. I wasn't soliciting
a debate on Ted's character or overall credibility.

It's just that I recall him saying last summer that the whole Iraq War deal was a concocted plan by the administration well before 9/11. I believe he was referring to the "f*** Saddam, we're taking him out" story in Time magazine. Which is also vindicated by O'Neill's revelations.

I was on a board where they called him mentally ill as a result of alcoholism for saying that - and now it turns out, he was right all along.

I guess standing up for Ted Kennedy isn't a popular pasttime amongst progressives anymore.

Chappaquiddick or not - if he was right about Iraq, he was right. EOS.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:51 PM
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15. It doesn't matter what happened in Kennedy's past.
He was RIGHT about Iraq.
It's that simple.
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