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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:20 PM Original message |
How can we get Blue Collar, White Males to reject the Cheap Labor Party?? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. The threat to overtime pay makes a damn good starting |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Right you are, blonde!! * gave us a gift with that one!! |
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jagguy (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. if I understand this thing it won't impact many of them |
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Runesong (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. Call it the "Cheap Labor Party" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It didn't happen in Oregon |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Good example, sandnsea! The kind Cheap Labor hates!!! |
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saline (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. you did. |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Explain that |
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whoYaCallinAlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Blue collar white males tend to be God-fearing, gun-toting, military |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Okay, so we say they can have their rifles - even praise their rifles |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Brilliant, EP! And I love the term "Cheap Labor Party/Conservatives" (n/t |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Cheap Labor Party, Cheap Labor Party, Cheap Labor Party |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. In, of all places, pro-union, anti-Cheap Labor NYC! |
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saline (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. um... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I'm not knocking blue collar men in general - just those supporting the |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Oh, they don't need money to live on? They don't care about |
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Clete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't talk about banning guns. |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. You got that right!! |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is not a group that I know anything about. |
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saline (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. As near as I can tell... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. However, even "real men" DO need healthcare - and they know it! |
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saline (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. very true |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. And they need good wages to provide food and shelter and |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. Vote Democrat Cause Even REAL MEN Need Health Care |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. They hate welfare simply because |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Oh. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. And in every area I'ved live in, whites outnumbered blacks |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Still. We can't afford to give up on them as a group. We need |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Here is the problem |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. We must shove the ChickenHawk issue down their throats!!! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Exactly.....they want their heroes. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Raise The Minimum Wage! |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. Beware of the Stereotyping |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I think the extreme chest thumpers make up a very small percentage... |
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Upfront (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Union Member Speaking |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 09:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Thank you Upfront |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 05:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Thanks, UpFront. Don't give up on the Dems; |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. THANK YOU, from the wife of a well read, blue collar, war hating, hard |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. and some people wonder |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Read the BigGuy's posts and you'll get a real good idea |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
61. Thank you because I was getting pretty pissed |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. Perhaps free beer? |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Good suggestion! |
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snippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. Jobs and deficits. Stay away from gun control. Counter republican lies. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. by talking to them honestly, maybe? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 08:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Honesty, Fairness & Pride |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's simple |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. We need to remind them that CEO comp has gone up |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
43. As someone who grew up in in area with these people... |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Talking down to them and calling them stupid |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 09:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You're absolutely correct! |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. You got it... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. White, blue collar males that vote Cheap Labor Party are UNINFORMED!!! |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. Okay...trying to control my temper here...Too Late... |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. I agree |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 05:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Well, fancy pickup trucks.... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 07:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. It seems people here are talking about |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. ROFTL! what a joke. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Expand your horizons, no one I know fits your Rush Limbaughian |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I know what Im talking about |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Many times I have disagreed with your posts, but figured to each his own. |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. so are you generalizing from your Detroit experience. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Nope lived in 6 different states and people are people every where |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. Speaking for myself, I was only knocking Cheap Labor Party supporters |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
47. Remind them (and yourselves) that THIS party was built... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
50. Honestly? Run promos showing brown people with their jobs. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. Get a candidate that respects them |
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Yentatelaventa (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. Simple |
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whoYaCallinAlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-29-03 11:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Oh yeah . . . those ideas will work for sure. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Um, what is it I'm trying to say? |
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jos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
54. A little "class warfare" |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
59. homophoic , racist yahoos....let the GOP keep 'em. |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. It might be worth the investment to try to enlighten people... |
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TheBigGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. you might as well be talking to a stove. |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 06:41 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. So I'm an idealist! I've seen some individuals make some pretty |
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scottxyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
74. Great analysis |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 07:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. They realize it, it is just unfortunate for them and us both |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. a major factor |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. Normally I wouldn't post this because its source is generally offensive |
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The Lone Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. We need to quit insulting them |
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whoYaCallinAlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-03 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
80. Democratic party is mainly the party of working poor, minorities |
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