If Saddam gets cornered, will WMD be used ?

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

If Saddam is really still alive,
AND he now knows his sons are dead,

wouldn't Saddam use everything he had in a final
act against Bush ? That is if & when he is cornered by US forces ?

Don't you think Saddam would now feel no reason to
'restain' himself from attacking Bush or his family ?
Or US forces ?

...my bet is in less than 60 days US troops will engage
in some form of conflict where Saddam uses massive retaliation
of some kind. Is that not what the CIA warned of prior to
the start of The 2nd Bush Oil War (occupation)?

IS THIS ONLY A FAR FETCHED SCENARIO ?
or will he just commit suicide as the troops close in ?

what are your thoughts ?

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or... maybe Saddam is already dead AND Bush's PNAC cabal
uses WMD to 'show' Saddam 'used & possessed' WMD.

That is Our BushSR's CUA rouges 'use' WMD and blame it on Saddam.
Claiming Saddam used WMD in a final act of destruction & terror.

BushSR's CIA rouges have used dirty tricks many times before.
Just ask Robt Parry about it.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

1. I think he will run away to another country.

He knows he stands no chance of living if he stays in Iraq.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

3. A Idi Amin repeat ?

Maybe Saddam is to be exiled to some isle of Elba

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http://www.nationaudio.com/News/EastAfrican/current/Opinion/Opinion3333.html

Monday, July 28, 2003
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MICHAEL OKEMA
Idi Amin: Everybody Must Get Stoned...


Idi Amin Dada is causing as much controversy on his deathbed as he did while he was president of Uganda. At issue is whether or not the dictator should be allowed to come and die in Uganda or, in case he dies in Jeddah, whether his body should be allowed back for burial.
There is renewed interest in Amin because people who suffered under him in one way or another - and that means most Ugandans - feel that, by his death, justice will finally have been done. We all seem to take it for granted that Amin's only crime was to have carried out mass killings.

By this assumption, however, most subsequent Ugandan presidents should also face justice. Apart from the late Yusuf Lule and Godfrey Binaisa, each of them - Milton Obote, the late Tito Okello and Yoweri Museveni - may well have more blood on his hands than Idi Amin.

So, numbers are not the issue. Rather, Amin beat all the others in the nature of the killings he carried out. No other regime has been so systematic. In the first week of his rule, Amin eliminated all the Acholi and Langi officers from the army.

more............

[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. I'm sure he would use them - IF HE HAD THEM

I'm sure he would use them - IF HE HAD THEM. But the evidence indicates that he didn't, the whole case was trumped up by Bush. He WAS acting like he had them - it's called bluffing.

[Ediacara]

6. I agree

AND HEY! Nice Avitar! Where in MT are you? I'm in Bozeman.

[Uzybone]

4. If Saddam has WMD

I will be very very suprised. For chrissakes the guy is probably hiding in basements with a few trusted men, small arms and cash. Are you still buying into these WMD lies? I doubt he is running around with vials of thraxx and gallons of sarin strapped to his back.

[samsingh]

5. would his sons not have used the WMD

when they were cornered?

[SoCalDem]

7. So what's he gonna do.. throw viagra tablets at them???

He's probably living out of a suitcase and mooching rides from his pals.. He's living like a teenager on the run..:)

[drdigi420]

8. He'll probably just begin his new life

living it up on Bush's dime.

Somewhere tropical and remote.

[Dem2dend]

9. "IF" he is still alive

I don't think he can transport WMD with him if he's hiding.
I've thought about the same thing. If he had them I think he would have used them by now. What I can't understand is why we found all the chemical suits. You don't think the military lied about that do you?

[StandWatie]

10. this is funny as hell...

uh, yeah, that huge cache of weapons is stuffed right down his pants and he'll pull it out if cornered.

I've got a clue for you: None of it has existed since the Gulf War, it was a cynical fear tool, if they had any of it they would have dumped it on "Chemical Ali" and he would have rained it down upon the troops who everyone damn well knew were going to invade no matter what in a "preemptive strike" because inflicting massive casualties at that point would have been the only way to stop this war.

[Ein]

11. Wasn't there some in 98?

Didn't Clinton get some intel on WMD, attack over 70 different sites (many of which were shown to UN inspectors), and that was the end of that?

Thats what I hear anyways.

Thats why when Rumsfield said there was 'no new evidence' since then, I was like "wow, that piece of cow shit is brazen".

[StandWatie]

13. Clinton got something

They always get something.

It's no good being in the intelligence community and bucking the preordained "right" answers to questions.

Clinton had also said that sanctions wouldn't end until Saddam was dead or out of power no matter what. This is a combination of domestic and realpolitick. The nation would have crucified him (they did anyway) as some sort of traitor if he eased sanctions on Iraq no matter what at a domestic level. At a realpolitick level once you let go of sanctions there is nothing to stop Iraq from rebuilding and returning to a less US friendly balance of power in the oil rich middle east.

In a very cynical observation the timing of his decision to pick a fight with the traditional Satan very well could have been due to Blowjobgate.

[lynndew2]

14. Yes Clinton did have the same intel

And this is why it isnt working to discredit shrub. This is from Bills speach in 1998 and why he said to let it go the other day on that call to dole on a show. He knew as well as everyone did that those weapons did exisist. He is covering his own ass and not wanting it investigated.

"If Saddam Hussein fails to comply and we fail to act or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop his program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of sanctions and ignore the commitments he's made? Well, he will conclude that the international community's lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on doing more to build an arsenal of devastating destruction. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow. The stakes could not be higher. Some way, someday, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal."
-President Bill Clinton in 1998

[StandWatie]

15. so?

Fuck Clinton right in his ear.

Either the entire intelligence apparatus sucks or both of them are fearmongers who leveraged out the answers they wanted.

I realize the Clintonistas and the Bushies will fight tooth and nail to defend the honor of their respective "men of honor" but it doesn't mean any of them are anything but useful idiots when you look at the obvious evidence.

[lynndew2]

17. So nicely thought out

The whole FUCKING WORLD knew he had those weapons. Look at the UN records. I just think denying the truth is only hurtful to the party and it is starting to make the dems look stupid. It would only be smart now to see that the lil drip drip drip thing isnt gonna work and realize that only someone strong on security and not in favor of hiding behind the UN is the only chance. Sorry if showing the truth about clinton bothered you. It was meant for comparison.

[StandWatie]

21. no one knew anything

The Hussein regime had a recorded interest in unconventional weapons. Given that record it would be foolish (and more importantly face saving) to not assume the worst.

What half aware people don't understand is the limited value of these systems and more importantly exactly how damaging sanctions were to the Iraqi economy and the absolute military insanity of following up on the almost laughable progress the Iraqi CBN program had made when you couldn't hold together the parts to keep a tank division together.

Think about it: Which would have done Saddam more good, a decent anti-air defence or some crappy liquid anthrax or cut rate VX gas which a MOP suit would have made negligible.

[leesa]

27. Funny...you are way behind in your reading

The key word is HAD, once upon a time...Bush is extremely weak on security. We are in FAR FAR FAR more danger now than before Captain Bunnypants started to stomp his little feet and tell his big whoppers. The UN did their job and Saddam had complied completely. Your foolish Fuhrer illegally invaded a disarmed, defenseless country and has made us the pariah of the civilized world.

You have not thought out anything in years, I'll bet.

[Jack Rabbit]

32. Wrong

If he had those weapons he would have used them. The sovereignty of Iraq was at stake. More importantly to Saddam, he was at stake. His only chance was to hit a qualitatively superior military force while it was amassed at the border, just before the invasion.

That's what I would have done if I were him. And, unlike him, I would have lost sleep over it.

The Bushies lied. They knew they were lying.

I just think denying the truth is only hurtful to the party and it is starting to make the dems look stupid.

You're partly right about that. Senator Lieberman, Will Marshall and the DLC all look ridiculous.

[Ouabache]

31. Does anyone think that CLINTON got the wmd with the '98 raids ??

Look at it this way, the inspectors couldn't find them this past year, and Junior and Rumadumdummy haven't found them... I sometimes think that Clinton's 70 air raids in 1998 GOT THE WMD ! Any few that still existed at that time from the 1990 Gulf War. If CLinton bombed the hell out of 70 sites, maybe they were vaporized then. What is such a stretch about that?

[Jack Rabbit]

12. What WMDs?

Anybody who still seriously believes he had them (or that this was a just war) should be handed an entrenching tool and sent to Iraq to find them.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. Zbigniew Brezinsky said that the idea that SH has WMD,

after this long of an interval, is "laughable."

[drscm]

18. Do you mean, will we use WMDs on Saddam. Definitely.

We do not want this man alive lest he tell how Reagan-Bush1 supported him.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

19. Ain't no WMD left in Iraq.

IF he had them before the war (and none of us know if he did or didn't for sure) they were moved to Syria or Lybia.

[lynndew2]

20. You are so right and thats what is scary!!

eom

[leesa]

28. What stupid garbage. We have been surveying the country non-stop

for years with satellite surveillance and you think he carried TONS of WMD along with the missiles used to launch them across the border without being seen.

Did you guys just fall off the turnip truck??

[Jack Rabbit]

29. No, not Iran or Syria

They're more likely at Santa's workshop at the North Pole or, even more likely, buried under the Fountain of Youth in Florida.

[aquart]

22. Is he carrying an atom bomb and missile launcher?

No, kinda clumsy and awkward.

Weaponized anthrax? Ewww. Gotta make sure it's properly sealed and you don't drop it or anything.

Smallpox? Nifty. Works maybe a bit too slow, but good, good. Again, how do you keep it fresh and safe when you're on the run?

Hmm?

WMD is really scary talk but it's a boogyman. Get specific and the fantasy falls apart.

And really, all he can destroy is his own neighborhood even if he's got something, right?

The oil companies would PAY him to wipe out the Iraqis.

[okieinpain]

23. so where is he keeping them in his ass

.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

24. IF, and that's a big IF, he HAD them . . . they have long since

been moved to Syria or Libya.

[Resistance Is Futile]

25. Iraqi WMD are nonexistant or unusable

If the Baath ex-government had WMD it would have used them long before now. They're either nonexistant or unusable.

'Moved elsewhere' is not an option for the simple reason that no state would take them. 'Given to terrorists' is not an option either as, if al Qaida had WMD, they would have used them already.

[leesa]

26. Maybe Saddam and Bush are on the same team.

Why wouldn't he have used them already? If anyone uses WMD it will be the Crime Family. They are the ones that desparately need that kind of action. The Crime Family and the Pentagon don't give a shit about the soldiers or they would never have put them into this situation and they would not use depleted uranium weapons, land mines, untested vaccines, etc...I don't think they would bat an eye to use WMD against the troops and blame it on Saddam to score political points.

[stickdog]

30. That depends.

Is it the thin Saddam or the fat Saddam?

[maggrwaggr]

33. sure, and he'll call it in using his WorldCom cell phone service

Maybe he can do a commercial for WorldCom.

"Hi, I'm Saddam Hussein. When you're backed into a corner, you can count on WorldCom to get you in touch with those who can help".