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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:23 PM
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When deadly force bumps into hearts and minds
With elections due in a month, our “embedded” correspondent reports on how the American army is failing to persuade Iraq's sour Sunni minority to co-operate

THERE is only one traffic law in Ramadi these days: when Americans approach, Iraqis scatter. Horns blaring, brakes screaming, the midday traffic skids to the side of the road as a line of Humvee jeeps ferrying American marines rolls the wrong way up the main street. Every vehicle, that is, except one beat-up old taxi. Its elderly driver, flapping his outstretched hand, seems, amazingly, to be trying to turn the convoy back. Gun turrets swivel and lock on to him, as a hefty marine sergeant leaps into the road, levels an assault rifle at his turbanned head, and screams: “Back this bitch up, motherfucker!”

The old man should have read the bilingual notices that American soldiers tack to their rear bumpers in Iraq: “Keep 50m or deadly force will be applied”. In Ramadi, the capital of central Anbar province, where 17 suicide-bombs struck American forces during the month-long Muslim fast of Ramadan in the autumn, the marines are jumpy. Sometimes, they say, they fire on vehicles encroaching within 30 metres, sometimes they fire at 20 metres: “If anyone gets too close to us we fucking waste them,” says a bullish lieutenant. “It's kind of a shame, because it means we've killed a lot of innocent people.”


And not all of them were in cars. Since discovering that roadside bombs, known as Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), can be triggered by mobile telephones, marines say they shoot at any Iraqi they see handling a phone near a bomb-blast. Bystanders to an insurgent ambush are also liable to be killed. Sometimes, the marines say they hide near the body of a dead insurgent and kill whoever comes to collect it. According to the marine lieutenant: “It gets to a point where you can't wait to see guys with guns, so you start shooting everybody...It gets to a point where you don't mind the bad stuff you do.”

Since September 1st, when the battalion's 800 men were deployed to Ramadi, they have killed 400-500 people, according to one of their senior officers. A more precise estimate is impossible, because the marines rarely see their attackers. When fired upon, they retaliate by blitzing whichever buildings they think the fire is coming from: charred shells now line Ramadi's main streets. “Sometimes it works in the insurgents' favour,” admits Rick Sims, a chief warrant officer. “Because by the time we've shot up the neighbourhood, then the guys have torn up a few houses, they're four blocks away, and we just end up pissing off the locals.”

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:35 PM
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1. And just what will we have when this is eventually all over?
The United States as the worlds leading terrorists Nation?

If we would have enlisted the co-operation of the rest of the world to solve the growing energy crisis, we could have remained the world leader we once were.

All we are doing is spreading hate and misery as far into the future as the eye can see. Alienating friends and neighbors alike.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:45 PM
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2. RC, well said. We need an overt rather than covert foreign policy
the now deceased Jonathan Kwitny's "Endless Enemies" shows this. But what we are seeing is now best described in FromTheWilderness.com 's "Crossing The Rubicon" and Kevin Phillip's "Wealth and Democracy"...a dying empire on its last legs...teetering, mainly due to an unsustainable overconcentration of great wealth...Top Heavy.
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