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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:38 PM
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Friedman: Policy Lobotomy Needed (Actually a decent column from Tom)
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/31/opinion/31FRIE.html

No one can say with any certainty who was behind the bombings at the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad and the Shiite holy place in Najaf, but here is what you can say about them: They are incredibly sick and incredibly smart.

With one bomb at the U.N. office, they sent a warning to every country that is considering joining the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq: Even the U.N. is not safe here, so your troops surely won't be. They also stoked some vicious finger-pointing within the Western alliance. And with the bomb Friday in Najaf, they may have threatened the most pleasant surprise about post-Saddam Hussein Iraq: the absence of bloodletting between the three main ethnic groups — Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. After the Najaf bombing, Shiites started blaming Sunnis, and Shiites started blaming each other.

If you think we don't have enough troops in Iraq now — which we don't — wait and see if the factions there start going at each other. America would have to bring back the draft to deploy enough troops to separate the parties. In short, we are at a dangerous moment in Iraq. We cannot let sectarian violence explode. We cannot go on trying to do this on the cheap. And we cannot succeed without more Iraqi and allied input.

But the White House and Pentagon have been proceeding as if it's business as usual. It is no wonder that some of the people closest to what is happening are no longer sitting quiet. The gutsy Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, acting on his own, told reporters last week that the U.S. would consider a new U.N. resolution that would put U.S. forces in Iraq under U.N. authority — which is the precondition for key allies to send troops. And Paul Bremer, who oversees Iraq's reconstruction, told The Washington Post that it was going to cost "several tens of billions" to rebuild Iraq. Both men were telling the American people truths that should have come from the White House.

--snip--

I don't know what Mr. Bush has been doing on his vacation, but I know what the country has been doing: starting to worry. People are connecting the dots — the exploding deficit, the absence of allies in Iraq, the soaring costs of the war and the mounting casualties. People want to stop hearing about why winning in Iraq is so important and start seeing a strategy for making it happen at a cost the country can sustain.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:44 PM
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1. he also says
"But this will not be a cure-all. Countries are not exactly lining up to send their troops into harm's way in Iraq. So, the only way we get a big troop increase quickly is for the Pentagon to reverse its awful decision to disband (and unemploy) the Iraqi Army — most of whom refused to fight for Saddam in the first place. We should be going to Iraqi colonels and offering to pay them to rebuild their units. They can prune out the bad guys."
How wise would this be? If we don't even speak the language, much less know the culture, who are we going to recruit?

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:49 PM
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2. Well we're already training Iraqi police
What could really be dumb I read today in another paper would be to try to have one big militia from the groups aligned with various Iraqi leaders on that council. Can you say Afghanistan redux?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:00 PM
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3. This method is also known as
letting-the-fox-guard-the-chickenhouse.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 12:56 AM
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6. Hmmmm, sort of like "Vietnamization"?
eom
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:16 PM
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4. What a mess you have made this time OLLIE.
n/t
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 12:53 AM
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5. Friedman is a freakin' weasel ....
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 01:16 AM by Flying_Pig
Just last week, he stated that he felt the U.S. should keep the U.N. out. Now this week, he's changed his mind. WTF?, did PNAC/Wolfowitz/Perle instruct him to change his tune?

Friedman is nothing more than a fascist propagandist, working directly for PNAC, and Sharon's Likudnik neocons. EVERYTHING he has advocated or written about Iraq, has come directly from the PNAC playbook. What angers me most about him though, is that he masquerades as a liberal, while doing his dirty work.

Today's column, almost reads as if he's been taking some heat (I know I've written plenty, and so have many others) for his undisguised Likud/neocon propaganda, and is now trying to rectify it a little bit. Regardless, he's a slimy weasel, and is guilty of treason and sedition, for advocating and supporting the illegal actions of this regime.
:mad:
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:35 AM
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7. Actually.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 07:35 AM by liberalpress
...I believe what Friedman advocated (and I'm sure somebody has the links) was that since we were in, we needed to do what was necessary to accomplish the mission and extricate ourselves with as little loss of life as possible. In fact Howard Dean said (on what has become the "infamous" Meet The Press interview) that we didn't have enough troops there to do a proper job.

I think Friedman's point is: "We screwed up, we're in, so let's finish up properly and get the hell out."
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:14 AM
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8. fuck-off, tom friedman
you weasely little bush boot-licking chicken-hawk war-mongering asshole.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:42 PM
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12. I AGREE WITH KG
YES INDEED.
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:17 AM
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9. Yes, it is better than average for Friedman
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 11:20 AM by GrandmaBear

Note:
This is not GrandmaBear speaking; this is Jack Rabbit.

Friedman has consistantly taken what might be thought of as the cold war liberal appoach to Iraq. This is similar to those Democrats who supported US efforts in Vietnam in the sixties and early seventies. In the political arena, this is the position taken by Senator Lieberman today; during the Vietnam War, the analogous position was taken by Senator Henry Jackson (D-Washington). In one of his columns, Friedman called his critique of the administration position neoliberal, a term that shall be adopted here partly for convinience and partly because the promotion of the neoliberal free trade agenda by pundits like Friedman and centrist politicians like Lieberman further justify its use.

The fundamental points of the neoliberal position is twofold: First, that the US was right to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam; second, that the Bush administration is bungling the postwar reconstruction of Iraq.

Ahead of the war, Friedman wrote a several of op/ed pieces in which he argued -- fallaciously, in my view -- that while going to war in Iraq in order to sieze that country's resources for our own purposes was a bad reason to invade, overthrowing Saddam and bringing democracy to Iraq were good reasons. Therefore, Friedman concluded, the invasion would be justified.

As I pointed out at the time Friedman was making this case, American foreign policy is the responsibility of George W. Bush, not Tom Friedman; that whatever good reasons Friedman could find for invading Iraq were irrelevant, since Bush was set on invading Iraq for all the wrong ones that Friedman himself identified as wrong. Furthermore, Friedman's right reasons for invading Iraq were not as good as he made them sound. This is because: democracy cannot be imposed on a society from without; that it was ludicrous to expect the Bush adminstration, which undermines democracy in America, to seriously promote it overseas; and because Friedman's idea of democracy is the neoliberal idea in which power is in the hands not of the people at large but in those of marketplace elites and conseqently is not democracy at all. Moreover, this free market pseudo-democracy is as much a universal failure today as was Soviet-style Communism twenty years ago.

What we see in Friedman's current pieces in the New York Times and in Senator Lieberman's campaign speeches is the same argument in a post-invasion context. They work better than the junta's arguments. However, that's not saying very much. The Busies, even if they don't come right out and say it, are modling the occupation of Iraq after Britain's two hundred-year-long occupation of India. However the Bushies wish to frame it, colonial occupation is not democracy and even assumes wrongly that the native population is either incapable of self-government or rightly that if the colony were self-governing the popular government would act against the interests of the colonialists.

The neoliberal critique of the invasion and occupation of Iraq recognizes that the administration's approach is at best clueless and at worst dishonest. However, the critique is in its own way just as dishonest and clueless.

It is dishonest because it regards the Bush lies ahead of the war as irrelevant. The administration is embarrassed to admit that there were no weapons of mass destruction ready for use, as claimed before the war. Administration spokesmen attempt to divert attention away from this by morphing weapons systems that might have been an immediate threat into weapons programs that might or might not have materialized into a threat years from now. Unfortunately, that is neither how the Bush administration and its allies justified their plans ahead of the war nor a justification for war in any case. The neoliberals give the administration a pass on its lies because they regard Saddam's brutal tyranny as sufficient reason to invade Iraq. However, this also is no clear justication for war. No matter how any American or British war hawk of any stripe spins it, prior to the invasion Saddam was a paper tiger. He presented no real threat to his weakest neighbor, let alone to the United States or any of its coalition partners. If Saddam had really been a threat to regional stability -- as Milosevic's had been -- then his tyranny could have been used as auxiliary reasons to invade and topple his regime. To use Saddam's tyranny alone as an argument for invasion also suggests that it would be just as wise to invade Zimbabwe, Burma, China and, ironically, the United States -- all countries ruled by tyrants who systematically abridge human rights.

As desirable as it is to topple tyrants, wars must be fought as a last resort when there is no other was of alleviating a genuine threat. There is no such thing as a war of choice (to use Friedman's term for the invasion of Iraq) that can be justified. To fight such wars of choice would have practical consequences. Such a policy would tax even present US military capacity beyond the breaking point. As it is, the occupation of Iraq has placed considerable stress on US military capabilites. With half of all the army's combat brigades stationed in Iraq, many inside and outside the administration say more troops are needed.

The neoliberal critique of the also asserts that the Bush administration is bungling the postwar reconstruction of Iraq. While the Bush administration has set up a colonial model for Iraq's occupation, neoliberals like Friedman and Lieberman believe a model built on the post-World War II occupation Germany and Japan would be more suitable. Of course, this is what the junta wants Americans to believe the occupation really is. That it is something else is addressed by the fact that Iraq's oil fields and oil ministry building were secured and the rest of the country allowed to rot. Hospitals and museums were looted, delivery of electricity to homes and businesses are sporatic, crime on the streets is open and rampant. The Iraqi people need basic services. The US is failing its responsibility as a occupying power.

The neoliberals believe that if the adminstration's rheteric about the benefits of US occupation were matched by its deeds, the occupation of Iraq would be shorter and easier. Iraqi resistence to the occupation would dissipate if the Iraqis see that Americans really do mean well.

This argument falls short. The neoliberals' goals for Iraqi civil society aren't really that much different from those of the Bush administration. The neoliberals and the Bushies are both determined to impose a globalized free market economy on Iraq. This won't make Iraq a twenty-first century Germany, but Argentina by the Tigris. The country will borrow heavily from foreign banks for development projects, which will be managed by multinational companies like Halliburton and Bechtel and sell its natural resources to foreign interests like Cheveron and Exxon in order to repay the debt. Foreign products will come in and undersell the native competition. Of course, there will be elections. Voters will choose from candidates selected and approved by the marketplace elites who pay their campaign expenses. It should surprise no one when the politicians who emerge from this system prepesent the interests of the elites rather than the popular will. While the neoliberals call this democracy because voters elect the leaders, it is really nothing of the sort since the elites really determine the choice presented to the voters.

The solution to the Iraqi quagmire that has resulted from the invasion would start by just being honest about having been deceptive: Let's admit that the war is colonial piracy. In order to correct this, let's cancel the contracts that were awarded without bid to the Bush junta's cronies. Then let's let the UN assume administrative responsibility for Iraq. A truly benevolent post-invasion administration would seek out civic leaders who will organize basic services like delivery of water and power and police protection, not schmooze the colonialists. The result might not be a government that represents US interests or caters to US will. However, an Iraqi government isn't supposed to represent US interests or cater to the US will. It is supposed to represent the Iraqi people and cater to their will.

That is the only way out.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:55 PM
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13. you have nailed Friedman perfectly
That was an excellent post.

I think you're way too generous when you say "clueless or dishonest." There is NO WAY he is clueless. Friedman is 100% calculated dishonesty. He adopts a phony pose as some kind of idealist, but it's totally transparent.

I don't even see Friedman as a person, he's just a tool. I often email columnists I disagree with, but I've never even considered looking up his email address because there's no way he could possibly care. He knows full well that he's a lying sack of shit. He has obviously decided to serve the hawks' need for a veneer of intellectual legitimacy to their plans, and he's enthusiatically devoted all of his abilities to it. He writes with such feeling, and such sincerity. Talk about selling one's soul!

You were right on when you said he doesn't make foreign policy, Bush does. What Friedman does is pretend there's a chance Bush will live up to the ridiculous rhetoric, and you're right it's ludicrous to imagine Bush even wanting democracy in Iraq, let alone successfully achieving it. Why in the world would Bush want democracy there or anywhere? What sane person doesn't understand that Bush HATES democracy. Not just rhetoric, but seriously. Bush seriously despises democracy.

Friedman's last colummn before the mosque bombing was ridiculously optimistic, totally dishonest. His thesis was that nationalism in Iraq is an invention of Al Jezeera, and that Iraqis see through the phony Arabism and really yearn for modernity, and that their anger is not at the U.S. but at other Arab countries. He includes quotes from all these Arabs that have a colorful way of saying things that happen to perfectly support his thesis. I've become convinced that Friedman makes up most of these people. The picture of Iraq that he paints doesn't resemble any other reporting that I've seen, which is uniformly grim.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:19 PM
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14. Friedman is an Arab-phobe bigot.
He truly DEPISES Arabic/Islamic culture. He is a western-capitalist-supremacist, a paternalistic colonialist.

I, in turn, utterly despise Friedman and all his "neoliberal" ilk. They are a cancer on the earth, a parasitic infestation.

He is a smarmy, slimy rapist who insists that the act was for the victim's own benefit.

sw
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:52 AM
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15. Good post Jack Rabbit
Reject all attempts to reframe the reasons. There should be a loop running 24/7 of Powell's and *'s speeches before the UN.

I thought it would be nice if Tom would denote some of Bush's projectionist quotes like:

"Now, there are some who would like to rewrite history -- revisionist historians is what I like to call them."


What was ludicrous was his pretending to chide Bush with this:

"Both men were telling the American people truths that should have come from the White House."

Is he kidding? Hell, it came from the WHite House alright. Things are so screwed up it's one Roveian trial balloon after another and in most cases it's not trial balloons, but it's everything. Rove is going to continue having information that would be normally released through the White House Press Secretary to be released through a broad range of sources. He's finding out that that staged, "loose cannon" crap like : " Bring'em on! " isn't playing so well in Poughkeepsie.

"The gutsy Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, ..." , my ass.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:19 PM
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10. What A Twat
Friedman, do us all a favor and give back the Pulitzer prizes. They've obviously inflated your head to the point you are incapable of consistent and rational thoughts.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:21 PM
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11. Oh Yeah, and when theTimes Get Rid of Friedman
Bring in Chris Hedges.
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:10 AM
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16. Friedman has blood on his hands....
no amount of columns will wipe the blood away. Except for Krugman, the entire editorial and opinion departmant of the NYTimes has a hand in the mess bush* has made in Iraq. They allowed him to get away with lies no Democratic president would have gotten away with.

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