Systemic E-Voting Problems, No Fraud Yet Detected !

[hangloose]

These guys need to hear from bloggers who have taken the effort to put together convincing tables graphs and arguments that yes there was wide spread fraud.




Lots of people have been asking Verified Voting Foundation what happened with the Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS) project run through Election Day and what we have discovered about any problems with the election.

"Although we received no reports substantiating e-voting machine fraud or tampering, we received many e-voting incident reports, indicating systemic problems with a wide variety of machines in various locations nationwide," commented Verified Voting Foundation Executive Director Will Doherty.

EIRS is the web-based tool that the Election Protection Coalition member organizations used to enter incident reports from calls made to the Election Protection Hotline at +1 866 OUR-VOTE. "To me, the most amazing part of this year's election protection efforts was the excitement generated by the more than 25,000 volunteers -- lawyers, technologists, students, data-entry and call center staff--as they felt the impact of their efforts in responding to problems in real time on Election Day," said Verified Voting Foundation Nationwide Coordinator Pamela Smith.
The Hotline

The Election Protection Hotline received 175,213 calls of which 46,219 used the automated polling place locator provided by the phone system. On Election Day itself, the Hotline received 87,841 calls of which 23,957 used the polling place locator.

States receiving the most Hotline calls were:

1. Florida (16475)
2. New York (15395)
3. California (15359)
4. Ohio (14974)
5. Pennsylvania (14062)
6. Texas (7375)
7. Michigan (6306)
8. Georgia (6134)
9. Illinois (5339)
10. New Jersey (4857)

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.php?id=5203

[JuniperLea]

1. define 'tampering'

maybe they are only considering data tampered with after the voting. seems to me the problem lies in how the machines were set up prior to the voters actually using them.

[goclark]

2. Exactly

Many voted and it went smoothly.
They didn't know their precious vote would not be counted.

[glitch]

3. This is a respected group of professionals with reputations to maintain

They aren't going to make a statement until they have hard evidence.

I would prefer they be braver and say things look damn fishy and remind their readers about who owns the vote machines and therefor the count. These are the people I was banking on, if they don't recognize that individual incidents at the ballot ARE NOT the issue but systemic fraud at the counting level are, then, WHAT THE HELL?

So, rather than applaud them on their insight and bravery I will, like with Kerry/Edwards and the Democratic Party in general, continue to withhold judgment until 12/12.

Then I am going to be pissed.

Hell hath no fury like a people scorned.

From the article:

"No Fraud Yet Detected

However, we have not so far seen any substantiated reports
of e-voting fraud or tampering. Understandably, incidents
of fraud or tampering are likely the most difficult to
detect.

Continuing Research

We are continuing our analysis of the election incident reports we have received to determine if any of the problems with the e-voting machines could potentially impact election results. We have not seen any evidence that e-voting machine problems could impact the presidential election results, although it looks more possible that state or local election results may have been affected by problems with e-voting machines.

Please stay tuned for further reports as we complete our research and analysis. If you have skills relevant to this research and analysis and are interested in assisting with the process, please contact the research team at [e-mail]

[sandboxface]

4. And they won't find ANY fraud...

Because e-voting fraud happens on the back end, not on the kiosk machienes. All you need to do is open the data file in Ms Excell, change the numbers and there you go. It can be done locally on the kiosk machine or on the main server that counts all the votes. You can't tell, either way.