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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:07 AM
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The Unapologetic Warrior In Iraq, a Marine Corps Captain Is Living Out His Heart's Desire
By Tony Perry. Tony Perry is The Times' San Diego bureau chief. He last wrote for the magazine about reporting from Iraq.

August 22, 2004

Anyone who prefers that their military officers follow the media-enforced ideal of being diffident, silent about their feelings, unwilling to talk about their combat experience and troubled by the violence of their chosen profession should skip this story.

Marine Corps Capt. Douglas Zembiec is none of these things.

Zembiec, an All-American wrestler and 1995 graduate of the Naval Academy, is the charismatic commander of Echo Company of the 2nd Battalion, 1st Regiment, 1st Marine Division. During the monthlong battle in Iraq earlier this year for the Sunni Triangle city of Fallouja, no combat unit did more fighting and bleeding than Echo Company, and during it all—from the opening assault to the final retreat ordered by the White House -— Zembiec led from the front. He took on the most dangerous missions himself, was wounded by shrapnel, repeatedly dared the enemy to attack his Marines, then wrote heartfelt letters to the families of those who were killed in combat, and won the respect of his troops and his bosses.

It was the time of his life, he acknowledged later, for by his own definition Zembiec is a warrior, and a joyful one. He is neither bellicose nor apologetic: War means killing, and killing means winning. War and killing are not only necessary on occasion, they're also noble. "From day one, I've told that killing is not wrong if it's for a purpose, if it's to keep your nation free or to protect your buddy," he said. "One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."

For his Marines, Zembiec asks for respect, not sympathy, even as one-third of his 150-man company became casualties. "Marines are violent by nature -- that's what makes us different," he said. "These young Marines didn't enlist to get money to go to college. They joined the Marines to be part of a legacy."


He knows talk like that puts him outside mainstream America and scares the bejabbers out of some people. Modern America is uncomfortable with celebrating those who have gone to war and killed their nation's enemy. Maybe it's because American military hardware is thought to be so superior that any fight with an adversary is a mismatch. Then again, people who feel that way probably have not stared at the business end of a rocket-propelled grenade launched by an insurgent hopped up on hatred for America.
Or maybe, like so many attitudes of the press and public toward the military, the queasiness about unabashed combat veterans is traceable to public opposition to the Vietnam War. A cynic I know says that although Americans remember Sgt. York from World War I and Audie Murphy from World War II, the only heroes most remember from Vietnam are Colin L. Powell and John McCain. One helped fellow soldiers after a helicopter crash, the other was shot down on a mission and survived a horrendous POW experience. Neither is known for killing the enemy.

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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:09 AM
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1. Interesting...
Many people you meet who are for the war have never tasted combat and dont know how truly horrifying it can be therefore can easily boast about how they'd fight hard and still back the war. Pretty interesting and strange to meet a guy who has seen some heavy action and still supports the war in Iraq...
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:11 AM
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2. Per DU rules post a link and trim the excerpts to four paragraphs.
Or this will be locked.

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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:14 AM
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3. Sorry about that! A newbie mistake....
I posted the whole thing because it's you have to be registered to view the article (Its free, but I figured I'd save everyone the hassle) here's the link

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-tm-marine34aug22,1,7615175.story

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:20 AM
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6. Welcome to DU.
Copyright rules strictly limit the number of paragraphs which can be posted to 4.
Thus if the poster posts an entire article it will be locked unless he or she trims it.




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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:14 AM
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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:17 AM
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5. Ok, I'm lost....
I trimmed it down so that it met standards, Am I still in hot water? Leave it to me to screw up on my second day!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:35 AM
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9. Thank you for editing the article to comply with the rules.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:22 AM
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NoMoreMrNiceGuy Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:25 AM
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8. Sad what propaganda can do to a man's mind...
do they really believe they are fighting for freedom???? Fighting to be part of a legacy? The dude's mind is warped.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:54 AM
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10. "These young Marines didn't enlist to get money to go to college..."
What a crock of shit.
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joecockandbull Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 11:26 AM
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11. sup people
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