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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:50 PM
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Social Security 101
from Crooks and Liars

January 05, 2011 10:00 AM
Social Security 101
By karoli


Lie #1: Baby Boomers Will Bankrupt Social Security

Baby Boomers were already planned for during the reforms undertaken under Ronald Reagan's administration. Here's a chart with the inflows and outflows of the trust fund since 1958. As you can see, there has been positive cash flow since adjustments were made to the assumptions, tax rates and SSRAs. Even in 2009, cash flow was positive, leaving a $2.5 trillion surplus in the fund.

Lie #2: There is no Social Security trust fund. It's all smoke and mirrors and accounting lies.

From the SSA.gov FAQ:

Far from being "worthless IOUs," the investments held by the trust funds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U. S. Government. The government has always repaid Social Security, with interest. The special-issue securities are, therefore, just as safe as U.S. Savings Bonds or other financial instruments of the Federal government.

Not only are they the safest investment, they're the only permissible investment under current law, because they are the safest investment.

Social Security is probably the best-functioning and most solvent government program there is. The fact-twisting that yields the idea that surpluses invested in Treasury bonds makes the fund insolvent or non-existent is an infuriating product of right-wing nonsense spin.

Think on this: The entire debate about raising the debt ceiling centers on the stability of the full faith and credit of the US Government. The fact that Social Security surpluses are invested in Treasury securities does not mean there are no surpluses. It means that excess dollars paid to Social Security are invested in the single available investment vehicle which carries a high level of security. China thinks they're a great investment. So did lots of parents who saved for their kids' college educations, until they discovered mutual funds and lost their shirts. If US Treasuries were a vapor investment, would they be sought after and bought by foreign investors? Do those investors think our treasury bonds are vapor? Of course they don't and neither should we. The trust fund and the Treasury are two separate entities. They happen to fall under the auspices of the federal government, but they are not two pockets on the same pair of pants and shouldn't be considered such.

But what about the interest on those bonds, you ask? Isn't that an obligation of the US Treasury and therefore contributory to our federal deficit? No. Because if they weren't purchased by Social Security, they'd be sold to someone else, and the interest would still be paid.

Lie #3: Means-testing benefits does no harm to Social Security

There's a movement afoot among Young Conservative Idiots to means-test Social Security benefits, which also appears to be embraced by some young progressives. Such a move would undermine the fundamentals of the program, because Social Security was established as an insurance program, not a welfare benefit. Because it is a contract between individual workers and the United States government, it cannot be contingent on need.

It is a straightforward quid pro quo: workers and employers contribute throughout their working lives and benefits are paid upon attainment of Social Security retirement age, death or disability. Because contributions and benefits are tied to the Social Security Wage Base (wages subject to the OASDI tax), it doesn't matter if a claimant is a billionaire or a pauper. Means-testing would remove that objectivity and open the door for the contract to be breached on a number of different levels.

Eligibility for benefits must be based upon covered quarters and earnings taxed in those quarters, regardless of whether there might be excess earnings. Means-testing moves it from an objective standard to a subjective standard, leaving the door open for further erosion.

For more factual information about Social Security, I highly recommend Nancy Altman's book "The Battle For Social Security". Altman is a tireless advocate for Social Security, was mentored by Robert Ball, and has a firm grasp on the history of the program as well as the law. It's a fascinating read, especially the part where she reviews what it took to get the program passed in the form we know today. If you're especially wonky, the 2010 Trustees' Report (PDF) is also worth reading.


http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/social-security-101
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:53 PM
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1. If you don't like means testing, you can tax the benefit at higher rates based on total income.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:47 PM
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9. This is done already
The more income other than SS one has, the more of the SS is taxable. Some pay no tax on the benefits, some pay full tilt. Right now, this is the case.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:04 PM
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2. Oh thank goodness! I thought your Social Security 101 ...
referred to the new age of eligibility that the GOP would push for.

;-)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:13 PM
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4. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:10 PM
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3. K and R n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:14 PM
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5. Sadly, repuke lies get more play than the truth, no matter who tells it.
This should be on billboards all over the country...!!!!

IT should certainly be sent to every SS recipient and all those due to be on SS!!!
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:52 PM
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6. Great article! Here's another toolbox with some handy info:
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:14 PM
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7. "lie" #2 is correct
That's like saying there is money in your left pocket because it has an IOU in it from your right pocket.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:28 PM
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10. I'm not sure I understand your post correctly, but if I do, if Social Security
only has an IOU in it's right pocket, what more rightful claim does the DOD next year have on the over 50% of the US budget it gets than Social Security has?

Monies paid in to Social Security over the years have been channeled into the general budget in exchange for IOUs, and now I'm hearing debts owed to everyone and anyone else take priority of debts owed to Social Security. First there's the World Bank, second, $500 million to the Colombian government (40% of which goes directly into the Miami bank accounts of wealthy Colombians), then there's nothing, and below that, nothing, and then, if there's anything left, maybe we'll give some money to the people that paid into Social Security for forty years.

We have the money, it's just a matter of priorities.

If 30,000 little ole' ladies have to die next year due to inability to access health care or due to homelessness or due to hunger it's absolutely essential that we continue to spend $750 million a year to maintain Guantanamo Bay and the obscene US embassy in Iraq (which, I predict, will be occupied by the Iraqis within six months after the US military leaves).
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 10:45 PM
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11. my point is this..
SS collects money.

It lends to to federal government (in the form of purchasing bonds).

federal government spends it.

It's gone.

To the extent fedgov is the left pocket and SS is the right pocket, SS has no money or assets.

Sure SS has IOU's from Fedgov,

but what are those worth when fedgov has no money?
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:02 PM
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12. So I did understand you correctly. The federal govt has money, it's simply
a matter of where they are going to spend it and who is going to get shafted.

Projected federal revenues for 2011 is over two and half trillion dollars. The battle is over who is going to get it.

Social Security has first dibs on that $2.5 trillion. Fuck DOD, Israel, Plan Colombia and everything else.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:04 AM
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15. No
My point us the fedgov does not have the money, therefore the iou's from the fedgov to SS are worthless. Also, I don't believe for a second that when the shit hits the fan that fedgov will stop paying interest on the debt or stop killing people in far off places in order to pay social security.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:14 PM
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13. No, under current law the other debts don't take priority over SS.
On the other hand, those debts do take priority over DOD expenses, welfare, education spending, research, regulation enforcement, and pretty much everything else.

Nobody will cut those things in any meaningful way. You can take a $3 trillion and boast of a 0.01% reduction as though it were important but that's it's like making $50k and reducing your budget by $5. The "trust fund" is currently debt owed by the government to the government (humorously, the Social Security Administration called me this morning: Caller ID reported it as "US GOVT"). This will translate in-house debt to debt owned to foreigners and non-government agencies. Probably at a higher interest rate. It won't increase the public debt, but will increase the deficit.

Or taxes can be raised, which is one of the usual two responses to any undesired increase in the deficit.

But that's under current law, which is mutable. Since the SS bonds are special issue, they can be specially dealt with.

The worst case scenario does not deny "giving some money" to the people who paid into SS for 40 years. Or less. Few scenarios actually look at cutting benefits to current retirees or even those who are retiring soon.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:22 PM
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14. Thanks for the info
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:36 PM
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8. K&R
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