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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:56 AM
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A Nation of Cheaters
I just found this site and haven't explored it thoroughly yet. It doesn't seem to deal specifically with politics -- but the things it says have a lot to do with the current social norms that will endorse anything from vote rigging to torture in the name of winning-no-matter-what.


http://www.cheatingculture.com/davidcallahaninterview.htm

"When the corporate scandals exploded in 2001, I was finishing a book on a group of business leaders who graduated from the Harvard Business School in 1949. These guys shook their heads in disgust at the likes of Enron and WorldCom, and said their generation simply lived by a different set of values than many of today’s leaders. Was that true, I wondered?

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". . . there is much evidence of more cheating in a number of areas compared to thirty years ago, especially by young people, well-educated professionals, and the wealthy. This trend hasn’t gotten much attention, in part because the “values” debate in America has largely been framed by conservatives who’ve focused on things like teenage pregnancy, divorce, drugs, and homosexuality. I say let’s give the culture war a break and talk about a more troubling shift in American values: the ways that more of us seem to be willing to do anything to get ahead.

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"To start with, we live in a winner-take-all society. Winners get paid more these days, so people will do whatever it takes to be a winner. Meanwhile, everyone is under more pressure to perform well starting from a young age, in school, and extending into the workplace so that they are not left behind by the economy. That kind of stress provides a lot of incentive to cut corners. And I look at two other reasons for cheating: government watchdogs haven't been given enough resources to enforce the law, and many Americans are cynical that the rules in our society are fair, so they feel it's justified to cheat. As I see it, all of these reasons are related to the overarching trend in American society toward more free market competition. We’ve become a society divided between a Winning Class that is richer than ever and often cheats because it can get away with it. And an Anxious Class that cheats to move up in the world – or just stay afloat.

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"We need broad measures to reverse America's drift toward a nation where the rich are given special privileges and middle class Americans see the system as stacked against them. We need to create a new social contract in America that fosters a sense of social trust and economic fairness across U.S. society. Things like fairer taxes, national health insurance, and fewer inequities in the criminal justice system can all make a big difference."
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:00 PM
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1. "Middle class Americans feel the the deck is stacked against them"?
What about the half or more of Americans who are poor or working class? If anyone has the deck stacked against them...
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:24 PM
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2. Interesting.
I'll have to see if I can find a copy, because I tend to agree that this is true, particularly where cynicism/entitlement comes into play. One beef: <Take baseball. Sluggers get bigger paychecks than ever, over $15 million a year in some cases. Guys on the bench get $300,000 a year. Players who take steroids can more easily build the muscles it takes to hit more home runs, and have a chance at getting seriously rich.> What, $300K a year isn't 'seriously rich'? Hells dude, $60K a year would feel seriously rich to me. Geez.
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DeadHead67 Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:28 PM
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3. 'Suits' bitching about sex . . . . .
. . , and drugs, and moral decay, while they buy off congress and make sure the law does nothing while they reach deep into the collective pocket of America and help themselves. This goes for both sides of the aisle, if you are listening: KNOCK IT OFF!!!! And as for judgement from ANYONE about anothers behavior: Remove the LOG from your own eye before you perform micro-surgery on anybody else's!(paraphrase from The Book)
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 03:20 PM
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4. The trouble starts at the top
Cheney/Ashcroft/Rummy/Bush, Inc. (from now on known as CARBCO) sets the example for Americans to follow: that of cheating, intimidation, and even crime, to attain their own advancement. Nevertheless, CARBCO preaches honesty and integrity when they have none of it themselves.
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