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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:36 AM
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6 Heinous Ways Religious Frauds Try to Make Gays and Lesbians Straight
Thanks to the unscientific, unregulated underworld of ex-gay therapy, frauds and hacks of all stripes are getting away with any kind of therapy they can think up.

The “ex-gay” movement, which purports to save religious men and women from their unwanted same-sex attractions, will resort to any method to scam its unfortunate adherents.

Earlier this month, Truth Wins Out, an organization run by ex-gay-group watchdog Wayne Besen,* released an exclusive video of two men describing how ex-gay life coach Alan Downing had encouraged them in separate counseling sessions to stand before a mirror, undress and touch themselves.

A significantly older life coach, who also admits to being attracted to men, making 20-something men strip naked in his office? In the unscientific, unregulated underworld of ex-gay therapy, frauds and hacks of all stripes are getting away with any kind of "therapy" they can think up.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/147945/6_heinous_ways_religious_frauds_try_to_make_gays_and_lesbians_straight/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:43 AM
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1. And I thought they just tried to make us get bad hair cuts.
Now it looks like I have to stand around naked
In front of a mirror.

Like I didn't do that already and I'm still gay.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:45 AM
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5. Yeah, that approach is obviously wrong
Now dressing you up in a green 1976 polyester leisure suit and standing you in front of a mirror...
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:50 AM
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6. Ohhhhhh, how about a little fire, Scarecrow
:rofl:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:56 AM
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7. Now HOW can I get that out of my mind?
I think you should provide me with pics of Jason Stackhouse
Making out with Eric Northman immediately.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:31 AM
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8. ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
:rofl:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:47 AM
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2. Conversion therapy is wrong morally AND scientifically
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 09:48 AM by ck4829
Be sure to read about Cohen's "theory" that memories are stored in muscles, so if you beat stuff with baseball bats (Like effigies of your mother for supposedly making you that way), then you can get the muscles to forget all about the gay thoughts.

There is no number that can be expressed to say how many things that are wrong with that idea.

K&R.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:08 AM
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3. The bad behavior is not limited to "ex-gay" organizations.
As a teen in the 1980s I told our family therapist (a licensed psychologist) that I was concerned about my attraction to men. He concluded that this was a symptom of my rebelliousness towards my father and prescribed aversion therapy. He was clearly excited about trying these methods out on me. After 3 sessions, I was so revolted by the creep I told him I was cured and got the hell out of there.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:23 AM
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4. Why aren't these "groups/therapists" charged with abuse/cruelty?
At the very least they should be charged with fraudulent practices.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:39 PM
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9. it would be hilarious if it didn't hurt so many people
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 01:36 PM
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10. Why are the scenes from "Local Hero" with Moritz the therapist suddenly playing for my inner eye?
"I've got your ego on the run, Mister Happer, you piece of s***...!"

"Maybe we could physicalize things a little. I could hit you! We could progress by leaps and bounds!"

ironically,
Bright
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:31 PM
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11. how do we de-program religious nuts?
now THAT is worth addressing
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:10 PM
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12. GoodGawd, wotta bunch of losers......
These nitwits must go down to the Barnum Museum to come up with new "therapy" devices. Is this where Dick Cheney acquired his taste for torture?
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