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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:43 PM
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The Potential Domestic White "Christian" Terrorists in Our Midst
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 10:43 PM by my2sense
MARK KARLIN, EDITOR, FOR BUZZFLASH

Through the confused feeling of progressives about a White House that has confounded expectations and tipped corporatist, we appear to be underestimating a serious and real threat to our nation: sedition, violence and assassinations.

Sedition is Coming to a Town Near You: The Potential Domestic White "Christian" Terrorists in Our Midst are Locked and Loaded

As I wrote when the latest seditionists were arrested, members of a so-called "Christian" militia, "Send Them to Guantanamo: Double Standard on White Christian Domestic Terrorists is a Direct Threat to the U.S.," the right wing media -- especially the FOX Fraudcasting and treasonous network -- the GOP, the likes of Dick Armey, some religious right groups, Aryan nation cells, the Tea Party, and Neo-Confederacy advocates, have poured the gasoline on our Constitutional democracy and lit the matches. They are the same threat as Al-Qaeda, perhaps a more serious one, because they operate from within the United States and are urged on by the right wing corporate media.

Those Americans loyal to legitimate governance proceed at peril to our nation if you dismiss these seditionists as one or two people. In the last year, we have had everything from mass shootings by individuals who were schooled by right wing media celebrity books, to the assassination of an abortionist, to a tripling of threats on members of Congress, to two recent arrests for threats on the life of Nancy Pelosi and Senator Patty Murray, to two seditionists arrested in separate incidents in Texas for plotting explosions and killings to open threats of rebellion at Tea Party rallies by seditionists and elected official seditionists from Congress, to a recharged gun movement (including the open carrying of handguns), and so much more.

This isn't a parlor game; it's a nascent stage of sedition: the open and violent challenge to a legitimate government.

When the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh challenge the validity of the U.S. government (it began with the "birther" movement, claiming that Obama was illegitimately in the White House), along with virtually the entire FOX propaganda and seditious network, we have what amounts to the beginning of an insurrection. The Neo-Confederates have also been given license to come out of the woodwork and join with the Sarah Palin (who put rifle sights on congressional representatives she is personally targeting in 2010) religious types (she was chosen as a "spiritual warrior for God" to take control of as much government as possible in order to "return" it to white Christian hands for the purposes of the "Lord") are primed to refight the Civil War. When they talk about an American government that has been "stolen," they are talking code for a pluralistic democracy that they defy and of which they do not approve if it doesn't lead to the election of white Christians.

Challenging the legitimacy of a government to rule is the most basic form of sedition. Violence comes from an uprising of those who believe, with each passing day, that they are living under an "oppressive" form of government, and hearing that confirmed from their favorite right wing talkers and politicians. If the Democrats manage to miraculously hold onto Congress in 2010, watch for the violent outbreaks of sedition to increase -- and a return to the assassination attempts (God hopes that they do not succeed) which rocked the positive social changes of the '60s and ended with Nixon in the White House and the redefining of America from the New Deal to the Raw Deal of the GOP, as we ended up with the "Reagan Revolution."

BuzzFlash has talked about sedition and treason since it began as an online publication on May 11 of 2000. We had a Supreme Court coup that year that put a man in the White House who was never elected in 2000, but the current seditionists never talk about the illegitimacy of the Bush/Cheney government, because Bush and Cheney were white "Christian" males who went around killing whomever they liked abroad, just like the myth of the white "Christian" male conquering the heathens (ask Native Americans about that one).

Sedition is upon us, and there are few countervailing voices of reason to dampen it down and preserve our Constitutional form of government -- a democracy.

Those who don't take it seriously risk the future of this nation, and the blood of many good men and women.

Remember Timothy McVeigh? There are tens of thousands of white "Christian" males out there now, potential and actual domestic terrorists in our midst.

source: http://blog.buzzflash.com/editors/312
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:45 PM
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1. Yep.
There's going to be some killing here pretty soon.

I hope it's sharp and short.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:50 PM
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2. Yawn. I already got my fill of this mindset from 8 years of wingnuts shouting "Terra!" n/t
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:01 AM
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6. Well...this time they're real.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:53 AM
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10. Some perspective...
Going by official government statistics, in America:

1 person died today by falling in a bathtub.

2 people died today while riding their bikes.

12 people drowned today.

30 people suffocated to death today.

50 people were killed by a drunk driver today.

80 people killed themselves today.

2500 people died of a heart attack today. The majority of those heart attacks were preventable by simple lifestyle changes.

And....

On average, zero people died today from "terra" from any source.

Which is why I yawned. Pick from any of the above (or from the hundreds I didn't list) if your goal is to alert others to real and considerable risks. Pick terra if your goal is to scare people.

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:28 AM
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13. I'm not sure it's death from "terra" that I'm concerned about. In this case,
These people, the real "terrorists" in our country with extreme right-wing opinions be they racists, pseudo-anarchists or fascists, terrorize with varying intensity and the least of them are already affecting policy. That policy has a real impact on you and me. As a matter of fact, health care policy could very well affect whether or not people live or die. My life was not in any way affected by a lack of swimming lessons leading to death by drowning or suicide or bike accidents, but it is definitely affected by people who have nothing better to do than take over the democratic process by disrupting town hall meetings on the terra-light side or join a rogue militia and start targeting gays, intellectuals and people of color on the terra-not-so-light side. Then you have the Timothy McVeighs.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:00 PM
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3. It's dangerous labeling anyone a "potential terrorist."
That is what the Right does every day, no?

From your article:

"Challenging the legitimacy of a government to rule is the most basic form of sedition. Violence comes from an uprising of those who believe, with each passing day, that they are living under an "oppressive" form of government..."

If those are your criteria, most of DU were "potential terrorists" during the reign of BushCo.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:16 PM
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4.  doubt anyone onDU would actually go kill someone. I can't say the same
for many of the wingnuts I've seen and heard on TV almost every day. There are some very weird people in the World, and I am very afraid someone is going to die because of the constant urging and support of violence by people with a mike. The really far out ones don't need urging to do some very awful things. I'm very afraid of what even one of them will do.

To the poster who said he had enough of this scare stuff under Shrub, I agree, but I sere the current anti Obama & all Dems much differently than what the Shrub admin was doing. They were promoting fear on pure speculation. I dont believe it's speculation when you hear the ugly tings that have been said about our President & the arrest of at least 2 people for threatening the lives of 2 Senators. This is REAL!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:49 PM
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5. That doesn't excuse the broad brush.
At least two white, Christian people have been arrested for threatening senators (btw do we actually KNOW they are white and Christian?). And more than two Muslim men have actually completed terrorist attacks. That doesn't mean you go smearing all Muslims as potential terrorists.

This "white Christian" stuff is as ugly as the stuff on the other side, especially when you are using shifty language like "potential" terrorism.

Identify specific people based on their specific words and actions, not on what you "doubt" or have a feeling they might do based on their racial group or religion. Broad-brush generalizations based on race and religion are despicable, period.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:15 AM
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8. There have been PLENTY of specific words and actions from the Christian white right.
If you haven't seen them, you're not paying attention. Dr. Tiller's assassination was just one of many. There have been many murders of doctors who provide abortions over the years - all by white right wing nuts.

And don't you remember Timothy McVeigh and Oklahoma City? This 'broad brush' isn't nearly broad enough. It's going to happen again, and you're going to look even more foolish than you do now.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:36 AM
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9. "the Christian white Right"
When did this become a monolith?
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:03 AM
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7. It has already happened
Bill O'Reilly's constant referral to Dr. George Tiller as "Tiller the baby killer" lead directly to his death. Yes, these people are loose cannons and very, very dangerous. We underestimate them at our own peril.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:41 AM
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11. Their game is to polarize people and play the victim. The best way to beat them
is to reclaim and rebuild centrist politics, preferably rather to the left of the Lieberman and DLC groupies. This requires a realistic view of the wackos, including both standing up to them when necessary and not over-reacting to minor provocations. It also means building coalitions with people you can work with, where you have common ground with them, even if you don't agree with them on everything else

We can win against the extremists and in fact we can win against them easily if we proceed intelligently
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:29 PM
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14. A perfect analysis of how to proceed practically instead of ideologically.
Thank you on behalf of everyone who thinks the McCoy and Hatfield approach isn't delivering the goods.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:35 AM
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12. Did anybody ever talk about "Muslim" terrorists? Why the quotes now? NT
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:38 AM
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15.  Real Christians
are good honest,up standing citizens that truly believe in the teachings of Christ.The men and women posing as Christians are a most foul group that will get what they deserve on that day.
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