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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 09:28 AM
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Abu Ghraib guard’s case to be reviewed
Abu Ghraib guard’s case to be reviewed

By Brendan McGarry - Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Feb 28, 2010 9:05:25 EST

The military’s highest court will review the case of former Army Cpl. Charles Graner Jr., the only service member still imprisoned for detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Feb. 12 decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces comes nearly a year after the former guard’s attorney petitioned the court for review.

Graner was sentenced in 2005 to 10 years in prison for his role in the Abu Ghraib scandal. He was portrayed as the ringleader of the abuse and was charged with knocking out a detainee and stacking naked detainees in a human pyramid, among other infractions.

The court said it will consider whether trial judge Col. James Pohl erred by not disclosing memos approving “enhanced interrogation tactics” by guards at Abu Ghraib and by excluding certain expert testimony.

more:http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/02/army_graner_022810w/
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 09:33 AM
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1. With what we now know about the torture endorsed by the Bush administration
We can look back on the Abu Ghraib incident and realize those soldiers were really hung out to dry in a very disgraceful, cowardly fashion by the chain of command on upward.
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shotten99 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 10:03 AM
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2. Exactly.
There is no conceivable way a group of E-3's and E-4's "took over" a military prison in the middle of a war zone.

At a minimum, the chain of command ignored it making them equally guilty.
Likely: They were "just following orders."
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:42 PM
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7. +1, I thought the very same.
No way they took the initiative.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 10:07 AM
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3. They followed orders, just like concentration camp guards
and they should be punished.
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shotten99 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 10:44 AM
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4. You've entirely missed my point.
If they were following orders, the orders came from some place.

The military simply wouldn't allow non-commissioned officers to be in charge of anything like this, not to mention a prison in a war zone, without a senior enlisted member (E-7 or higher), and at least a junior officer on duty with them. There's no way this situation could have happened as it has been presented to the public.

Is this piece of trailer trash guilty? Yes.
Is he the sole bearer of responsibility? Bullshit.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 04:48 PM
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8. Blame the Obama Administration for not prosecuting those responsible for torture
The blame lies on the Commander-in-Chief for dismissing torture and human rights abuses, whether committed by civilians or military, as water over the bridge.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:56 PM
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5. But they should not be the only ones punished
All the way up the chain there should be consequences, including the biggest baddest torture advocate who may have been the start of the chain - Dick Cheney.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 04:49 PM
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9. Attorney General Holder just whitewashed the authors of the torture memos
Those crimes began in Washington, DC.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:40 PM
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6. +1 nt
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:47 PM
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10. If Bush and Chaney
were brought before the bar of justice and convicted,we would have a riot like we've never experienced before.
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