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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:13 AM
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Religious Right attempts to hide the Deism of America's Founders

For OpEdNews: Bob Johnson - Writer

The religious right in the U.S. is Bible based. Therefore, reality and truth are not very important to them. Their main purpose is to subvert the Constitutional Republic into a Judeo-Christian theocracy. One way to do this is to distort America's real history and to make sure America's forgotten religion, Deism, remains forgotten.

One requirement of attaining the power necessary to subvert the U.S. into a theocracy is to place Bible believing Christians on the school boards across the country. In Texas they have been very successful! As they continue their march for real power, our children and grandchildren are being forced to embrace the fallacious nonsense these religious zealots promote.

Not only have they been successful in Texas, they've been successful across the United States. With the recent victory of the Pat Robertson protege, Bob McDonnell in the race for governor of Virginia, to the Obama White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, the religious right is making giant gains at the expense of reason and liberty.


One way to successfully combat these promoters of Dark Ages mentality is to educate people about their lies. For example, they teach that America was designed by America's Founders to be a Christian nation. Even former presidential candidate John McCain openly parroted this huge lie and specifically said that the U.S. Constitution established the United States as a Christian nation! This makes clear that McCain never read the U.S. Constitution, for if he had, he would realize clearly that the opposite is true. The U.S. Constitution NEVER mentions God and prohibits the establishment of religion by the government.

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Sans Culottes Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:31 AM
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1. K&R n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:35 AM
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2. A better job needs to be done to educate everyone about the truth to be successful.
One point that needs to be included is that we didn't declare our independence from Great Britain because of religious reasons. There is not one reason listed in the Declaration of Independence as to why we split that was religious in nature.

Another point is that prior to the United States the colonial charters were all commercial. The kings and queens expected profit. Just as Columbus sailed to find a new route to reduce the cost of trading.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:38 AM
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4. The problem is the way american history is taught in schools we go from
Plymouth Rock, the Pilgrims, Thanks Giving with the natives to the Revolution war and the Declaration of Independence. People are confused because 1) they believe the Pilgrims left England because of religious prosecution 2) That the founding fathers were Pilgrims so they were Christians. Remember conservative minds are very good at cherry picking and ignoring things that don't fit their preconceived out look on life. Not many grasp the years between Plymouth Rock and the Declaration of Independence, in their minds the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, had Thanks Giving dinner and started a war with England over taxation and Religious freedom.

You can see this by how many folks lately are under the belief that the pledge to the flag proceeds the Constitution, I've heard many tea baggers state that the Constitution has "one nation under God" in it or others that claim the pledge proves that the founding fathers were God fearing. What they don't seem to grasp is 1) the founding fathers were against pledges of any sort, they refused to pledge allegiance to the king for crying out load 2) the pledge was written after the Civil war 3) the "one nation under God" was added to the pledge in the 1950's long after the founding fathers were dead and school kids were forced to say the pledge to prove they weren't commies.

This in a nut shell is how most conservatives view American history, you can not dent this with facts or truth anymore then you can get them to believe that their view on religious beliefs are questionable, their minds are closed to any information that questions their beliefs.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:07 AM
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6. Here's the thing
"People are confused because 1) they believe the Pilgrims left England because of religious prosecution 2) That the founding fathers were Pilgrims so they were Christians."

If the pilgrims left England because of religious persecution from the state-run church, then wouldn't they want separation of church and state?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:20 AM
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7. Cherry picking to fit their preconceived ideals of why they left England
Means they came to America to start their own country where they could dictate which brand would rule. Baptist's, many of them, believe they are the direct descendent's of the Pilgrim Religion and they have more rights then Protestants or Catholics, which are false faiths in their eyes.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 01:44 PM
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8. this is why the right is trying to dismanlte public schools and replace them with fundamentalist
madrasas and McIgnorance charter schools.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:14 AM
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3. The "Christian nation" argument is born in both ignorance and mendacity.
If you point out that the Founders--Jefferson, Franklin, Washington and a host of other framers of the Constitution (our founding document) weren't Christians at all in the contemporary sense, they'll tell you that by "founders" they meant the Pilgrims of the New England colonies, or that Jefferson wasn't really that important to the process, etc. The central question you have to ask these people is this: if they intended for America to be a Christian nation, why didn't they say so in the Constitution? Why, in fact, did they go out of their way NOT to say so when they had ample opportunity, and why is the only mention of religion (not God, not Jesus Christ) two sided: yes, you may freely practice your religion, but no, you may not impose it anyone else. What did they think the founders were responding to, exactly, when they WROTE the damned constitution? In part, they were consciously working to limit the chance that America would revert to a monarchy, with a complicit state church declaring the divine right of kings in oreder to assert and maintain political control. It's what they did with Bush II: he was nominally a Christian, so therefore God placed him in office, therefore he was doing God's will. But when the other side wins, then somehow God's will has been thwarted. It's all about politics, power and control.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 09:41 AM
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5. Kick
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:59 PM
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9. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Joanne.
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