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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:10 PM
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The Collusion of Government and Big Business Spells the Death of Democracy
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 03:02 PM by theFrankFactor
From his cabinet choices and his closest advisers to his deplorable impotence as a Democratic leader Barack Obama proves in his first year that there is no hope for change to be delivered by him and the Congressional Democrats unless you can consider the smooth, palatable, covert fraud of the great Black hope to the open, in-your-face fraud of the ham fisted, Good Ole Boy Republicans as change you can believe in.

The Corporatization of America is proceeding quickly and according to plan as the DLC, Barack Obama, Congressional Democrats and their leaders prove through their brazen, capitulation to corporate influence and their fuck you salute to their constituents, that their sole purpose is not to represent those citizens that gave them their jobs or the Constitution they were sworn to uphold but to provide cover for the Unified Corporate Party of America. Democrats and Republicans serve one master from the top down.

The charade has been going on for decades; the openly pro-corporate Republican party takes control, loots the treasury until the devastation reaches a tipping point and then when the citizens respond by filling former Republican seats with Democrats, the Democrats create the illusion that they are ham-stringed by so-called “moderate” Democrats and the all powerful Republican minority to enact real change and proceed to deliver the same quality of results as a Republican majority, to which they occasionally toss in a social issue concession to the masses as a smoke screen and consolation prize.

Democrats are not weak; they are not being vanquished by the cunning and strength of an opposition party of any kind. Nor are they just so darned civil and polite. They are performing according to plan. Their glaring failure to enact a health care plan that makes any sense at all is the desired result, not of their constituents, but of the real power brokers—the lobbyists, party leaders and their corporate sponsors.

So deplorable is the performance of this great Hope and Change Trojan Horse, Barack Obama, that the Democratic party is fracturing, as it should, between those that will protect their childish fantasy of the great black Liberal against any and all logic and attempts to raise the bar from the depths of “he’s better than Bush”, to those who actually believe in Liberal and Progressive values above the cult of personality—I consider this latter group to be reality based Liberals. Loyalists stick to blind party identification above and beyond issues and actions, but a growing percentage of both Democrats and Republicans are beginning to see the fraud and deceit that the coalition of the powerful rubs in their noses day after day for what it is.

Corporate media titillates both sides with lurid tales of corruption and moral failings while General Electric, Comcast, News Corps and a host of other real players pull all the stings. Will the corporate media stop blaming Republicans for the failures of Democrats… will Democrats? Will Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman uncover the channels of corporate cash that flow directly to Congress and the White House? Will they educate citizens to the flow of real power in America? With the corporate ties that the media has, it is highly unlikely that any Howard Beal moments will transpire. The change will have to come for outside the corporate shit machine—out here—you and me and the other budding voices of alternate media and the real grass roots movements.

At the same time we will have to be alert for signs that the Internet is coming under greater corporate control as well. It is only a matter of time before corporations find a way to silence the voices that challenge their corporate livestock to look behind the curtain of manufactured facts and the distraction of drama, at the new Plantation owners of the twenty-first century.

I was slow to warm to Barack Obama during the campaign for reasons more intuitive than of policy. When the primaries made it clear he was the candidate I accepted him and did as so many others did, I paid particular attention to what we would later learn were little more than policy teasers meant to maximize and appease the broadest possible base—to scoop up those Democrats who were actually Liberal.

He was stepping into a world of shit that the previous administration had so efficiently created. I allowed myself to believe that finally, the sensible measured approach of a bright Liberal President would so easily make clear that government is not the enemy. Finally nincompoops and corporate insiders will no longer be assigned positions of authority in government agencies and seats whose sole purpose is to protect citizens and the environment from exploitation and abuse, from fraud and marginalization.

It has been an enlightening experience since Mr. Obama has taken residence in the White House. I came out guns blazing to defend him from moronic slander from the no-information right. His birth certificate, his ties to domestic terrorists, his supposed love of Communism and fascism, his plans to kill off people over sixty-five, his hatred of his white family members and all whites in general and the rest of the bull shit. Give the man some time I said.

So here we are one full year into the historic Presidency of Barack Hussein Obama or Barry as he is also known, and what can we glean from activities so far? We have President Obama’s response to the second greatest economic attack on America by Wall Street in our nation’s history and the historic likely passage of a government mandate to buy a private product called “health care” Insurance.

For me the real telling event was watching this health care saga unfold. The Bush administration went out as a global embarrassment and even American’s, working against the megaphone of corporate media propaganda, sent Democrats in to change course. Democrats took majorities in both houses and we now had a supposedly vibrant, articulate, passionate, Liberal President in the Executive branch. It was clear we needed all we could muster to set this ship aright.

I naturally thought that in light of the way Democrats were treated when they were a minority and the way the Republican Congress gave the Executive Branch everything they wanted during the Bush Years, Democrats would seize this opportunity to get to work rebuilding the devastation left behind by the exiting administration and prove that government is not the root of all evil as the right loves to claim.

Then there were Barracks’ cabinet appointments. I was stunned, but still…I tried to understand his actions in light of what I believed him to be about. Perhaps this new African-American President was being shrewd in surrounding himself with establishment insiders—a way to soften the course correction from radical rightwing war mongering and corporate ass-kissing to the service of the citizens—a way to throw off the scent. Maybe he saw these cronies and insiders as mere window dressing because he was confident and felt no threat from these people. He would in a sense, keep his enemies closer as they say all the while rallying his Democrat majorities to deliver what the public wanted and he knew to be best for America.

But this turned into a clusterfuck of stellar proportions! As if the rewarding of Financial failure and fraud with billions, if not trillions of tax payer dollars wasn’t bad enough, the enactment of a public health care system that would take the profit motive out of the denial of health care and the murder of American citizens was more than the Insurance industry, who had so generously bank rolled Barack’s campaign, could allow. It became clear to me as the bill took shape and made its way through the system, the real power brokers in the Democratic party would eviscerate anything that smacked of common sense and practicality. I would never see this two party system the same again.

Right out of the gate, Max Bachus the DEMOCRATIC head of the finance committee refused to allow the clear cut sanity and efficiency of Medicare expansion to all citizens be heard. I asked myself, where did this fuckstick come from? Who appointed this asshole? Ya know who? Democrats, that’s who! Right there I knew this was a fuck job. But I had no idea how far it would go. Dennis Kucinich and Anthony Weiner had penned a bill that would do just that, expand Medicare but the real players had nothing to fear because the farther up in rank you go in the Democratic party the closer to the asshole of big business you get and the stink is a killer!

How wrong had I been for the last thirty years about how this nation’s government worked? Very, very wrong! All of my ranting and raving about the social retardation of the Republican party was true and amusing but really ignored the heart of the matter—corporate power—the invasion of the People’s government by a nest of rats that have been seeking to perfect their takeover for decades if not longer. 9/11 had been a “god send” for these pigs.

The two parties have their differences to be sure, that’s the beauty of the charade. Had a Democratic administration been in place at the time of 9/11 the transfer of power to corporations and the evisceration of our civil rights would still have occurred, but slower. Let’s remember, Joe Lieberman was on that Democratic ticket and while our present Joe doesn’t seem to have much authority we needn’t look too far to see what power and authority a previous Vice Presidential Dick had. The Democratic power structure has to maintain the appearance of a difference in the parties in order to effectively guarantee control of the issues of highest priority—corporate power. Multi-Trillion dollar, multinational corporations don’t really give a damn if homosexuals marry or not, this is just the stuff that election manipulations are made of.

Republicans can push the corporate fascism agenda faster than Democrats, so any opportunity to keep Republicans in place speeds the process with the added advantage to the corporate scum of funneling more tax dollars to them and making life miserable for the minority of their choosing. Democrats are important because when the havoc and destruction that the Republicans accomplish actually starts to make the average Jane and Joe take notice and make noise you send in the Democrats to put on a show. “Here come those protectors of the common man to undo all that raping and pillaging that those nasty Republicans did.”

That’s where we are now. This administration will set things up for the Republicans when they take over… and they will. Why? Because success is not the goal or function of the Democratic party. The Democrats play the part that the Washington Generals do in games with the Harlem Globe Trotters—a good cop bad cop kind of thing. They’re not there to win. The election system is set up to accomplish this. Ralph Nader, Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul; weather they know it or not, these people are play actors in the show. The headliners won’t let them get anywhere under normal circumstances. A conspiracy theory? I hope so but honestly, this is what I whole heartedly believe at this point.

Aside from the social issues the greatest divide between the Left and the Right may be the role of Government. I do not ascribe to the “government is evil and the free market is not” line of reasoning. As I see, it what has happened to our government is the result of a very effective attack on the citizens by corporate power and a citizenry that has bought into the anti-government propaganda spread so effectively by that same corporate power. It’s been a very effective public relations campaign. Tea baggers are the most openly proud dupes while self congratulating Democrats are the more smug elite dupes.

Taxes are not inherently evil, in fact taxes have been used to great effect by both parties for the wrong purposes and both parties will not pass serious tax reform because they need the tax issue as a tool just like they need homosexuality and other social issues. Serious tax reform and a budget that makes sense are possibilities only when we remove the wrong headed and criminal machinations that have taken control from the equation and replace it with representatives that answer to us and not lobbyists.

Health care is an ideal example for a service of government. The insurance industry is essentially nothing more than a risk pool. Government collected taxes, a portion of which are used for health care, from millions of Americans can perform the same function without the drive to cut care to increase profits. Would it have problems? You bet. Does private care have problems? You bet. But who controls private care, the citizen, the patient or the CEO? You say you can vote with your wallet, really? Do you really want to hunt for health care like shopping for a used car; does your employer even offer that as an option?

So what can we do? Well, the fact that they bother to put on a show means that they have some fear or need for citizen approval. I think whatever happens will have to be coordinated outside the mainstream. The mainstream media is useless on the big domestic political issues; they are the “them”. We are in a difficult position with the demise of real Journalists and investigative reporters that aren’t cowards and shills--signs of the further takeover by corporate media. But history has shown that populist movements can accomplish great things.

My vote for the first place to start is the removal of corporate person-hood and fortunately I’m not alone. This Democratic debacle has been so clumsily and brazenly executed that more than a few citizens are seeing behind the curtain and this is a good thing. The public financing of campaigns and the fidelity of the vote-count are all eligible for first place priorities as well.

We need to see government as a necessity as we move forward into the twenty-first century. Globalization is a fact and corporations are already becoming giant monopolies. The collusion of government and big business spells the death of Democracy. This is not pre-industrial America it is the twenty-first century and a government of, by and for The People has never been more important.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:22 PM
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1. "The collusion of government and big business spells the death of Democracy"
Nothing could be truer.

Nothing could be more devastating.

If I ran DU, your post would be permanently placed on the front page.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:25 PM
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2. Campaign finance reform is the only answer. (nt)
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:46 PM
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5. Proportional Representation would be nice, too ...
... that way even if the (R)'s and the (D)'s are still owned to greater or lesser extents by the corporates, the smaller-party representatives could still play ball because their voting blocks would potential be swing votes, and folks who support and run on small-party platforms tend to be pretty anti-corporatist.

JMHO. :hi:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:58 PM
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6. That would be nice - I agree
But you're not getting the former without the latter, frankly.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:08 PM
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11. Yes, that's the first answer.
Although it's true we also need laws on people retiring to work in the private sector immediately after leaving public office. It's even trickier when family members of politicians get cush industry jobs they're unqualified for...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 08:40 AM
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19. Can't really do much there.
A person has a fundamental right to be able to work.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 04:37 PM
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31. Well...
Of course we can have laws in place preventing them from working in the industries they help regulate (or deregulate more likely), at least for a certain number of years after they leave office. If they're aware of that going in I'm sure they'll be more than prepared to find employment in the countless other available areas.

And at the very least these things need to be publicly disclosed and brightly lit.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 04:48 PM
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32. If I'm a Congressional aide...
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 04:50 PM by Nicholas D Wolfwood
I work on 5-8 different issue areas. My expertise in those areas are literally what makes me valuable to anyone. If you put any kind of block in place, you're preventing people from earning a paycheck. Worse, you're deterring people that are already making less than they would in the private sector from every setting foot in the government because they'd be more or less trapped there. You'll either get the bottom of the barrel or the independently wealthy - not exactly the kind of pool you want running the show.

We're talking about a group of people that largely aren't independently wealthy here and certainly aren't getting rich by working in government. It's absolutely insane to expect them to take even 6 months without a paycheck of any kind because you're prohibiting them from using precisely what would get them a job in the first place.

And so far as public disclosure is concerned, once you go private sector, it would be an enormous violation of personal privacy to have to disclose your new job if it didn't have to do with directly interacting with the government. If you're lobbying, that's one thing, sure. But not everyone that leaves the Hill goes on to lobby. Some go into think tanks, others consult, more are industry advisors.

I understand the crux of what you're trying to do, but you're thinking of rules geared towards your Billy Tauzin's of the world and not considering how they might impact the guy making $40,000, which is by far the biggest group of people you'd be affecting.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 05:17 PM
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34. Okay, Nicholas, I'm gonna bite on this statement:
"not considering how they might impact the guy making $40,000, which is by far the biggest group of people you'd be affecting."

If you are saying that Congressional aides are only making $40K a year I'd like to see some backup on that. A quick Google search showed a link claiming that AVERAGE congressional aide salary is $60K. I realize that isn't a lot of money either, especially if you are living in D.C.

So, what we seem to have is a low-paid internship system for training corporate lobbyists at taxpayer expense. These folks (mostly young staffers) work hard, bust their butts for five years learning the ins and outs, then they are scooped up by companies willing to pay them ten times, or more, what they were earning working for the American public.

My suggestion would be to raise the salaries of aides significantly. These folks are the ones who do the research, the legwork, the hard job of figuring out exactly what legislation means and how it might affect US. Why would they be rewarded on the pay level of a good carpenter?


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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:22 AM
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43. I'd agree, but you know what the outcry on raising government salaries would be?
Honestly, even at $60k, they'd need at least a 50% raise.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 08:27 PM
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37. I'm talking about rules for elected reps in the House and Senate.
I'm not sure how this trickled down to their aides, etc.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:24 AM
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44. Well, the aides are the ones that do the work.
But as far as elected reps go, there is a 1 year moratorium in place already on lobbying activities once you leave Congress. Thing is, they're still valuable as spokespeople and consultants during that year, or even two. Not sure it'd fly Constitutionally to have it last longer than that.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:27 PM
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3. KR+4! Needs another rec!

A critically important point. Unfortunately, meaningful campaign finance reform is all but impossible while the legislatorts are benefiting from the current institutionalized corruption/crony capitalism. How can money/corporate influence be taken out of politics at this point? (If anything, The Supreme Court is likely to vote on putting even more corporate money into politics, sadly.)
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:29 PM
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4. K & R n/t
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:59 PM
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7. Been dead awhile -- but we have a marginally kinder mortician in the White House now
I guess....
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:41 PM
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25. Agree, it has been dead a long time.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:59 PM
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8. K&R
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 03:01 PM
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9. I'd add Instant Runoff Voting
Then we'd see some challenge from outside the center.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:57 PM
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10. Yes, if it can be done without inviting any more election fraud than we've got already.
Is there any place that combines IRV with paper ballots? I sure wouldn't trust it on electronic voting machines, any more than I trust the machines even without IRV.
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:56 PM
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14. IRV is very bad news - it is a HUGE push to guarantee machines b/c of complex tallies
It's not absolutely impossible to have a transparent count people can verify with IRV, but it stacks the deck against transparency and public control of our elections process -- something absolutely critical in any close election or when trying to kick out corrupt incumbents who, by the way, run the election's voting machines. Think we can live without transparency whenever there's a corrupt incumbent?
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:27 PM
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12. K&R
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:30 PM
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13. K&R.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 12:15 AM
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15. K&R.Time for Nancy to drag the bums into the sunlight (CSPAN) & ram the Pub Opt down Harry's throat:
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:39 PM
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38. I heard this AM on NPR that obomb-ass was recommending to
the house that they accept the senate version of the bill.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:04 AM
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16. Great piece, Frank
I couldn't have said it better myself. K&R
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:43 AM
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17. K & R......
yup....its time for a little spring cleaning.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 08:32 AM
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18. Great job Frank, K&R
My post on another thread yesterday. It must be the Zeitgeist, and it should not be discounted.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7394089&mesg_id=7397280
Lieberman and his Republican cohorts give Democratic corporatists a convenient excuse so as to continue getting "campaign contributions" from moneyed interests like the insurance and defense lobbies.
Publicly financed campaigns are a remedy. Or, we can resort to pitch forks and torches.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:29 AM
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20. K&R
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:29 AM
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21. Nailed it Frank - K&R
it really pisses me off too. These republican fucktards who want to "drown government in a bathtub" are just the kinds of people we do NOT want in government! Fake Dems (Nelson, Lieberman) need to go too. We need a strong, liberal Democratic Party if we have any hopes of surviving the future. Yes, I think we are in that serious a situation.
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Prospero1 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:53 AM
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22. Well said.
The real solution to this is to eliminate corporate personhood. This would surpass public financing of elections as a remedy. (if corporate personhood was e;iminated, they sould no longer be able to make contributions and only real live human beings would be making them) I would take it a step further and limit contributions to persons eligible to vote for the candidate in question.

Obama has been a huge disappointment in a more fundamental way: his failure to restore to restore the rule of law. His administration has refused to prosecute the criminals who led us into war with lies, who enabled and practiced torture, and who wiretapped citizens en masse (not to mention the Wall Street Banksters) and has even used the same repugnant arguments before the courts as the previous regime. This is a violation of his oath of office. Lack of consequences from Watergate emboldened those who committed Iran-Contra and lack of consequences for those crimes emboldened the Bush gangsters. When will the rule of law apply to those in power?
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:53 AM
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23. no matter who's in office
It's beyond the realm of Republicans and Democrats.

It's -- none other than the MONEY PARTY!
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 12:53 PM
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24. Thank you for this important piece.
You've put in words EXACTLY what my eyes can see but my writing skills won't convey.

:applause:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:07 PM
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26. Big K&R - thanks n/t
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:15 PM
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27. Well said
Congress has willingly relegated itself to middle-management. They no longer want to check either presidential or corporate power. Sure there are exceptions but there are way too many whores in either house (practically every R and way too many Ds). Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of difference between the two "parties" (at least within the Beltway sewer). Essentially, there's one large business party with two wings. Obama's appointments of Rahm, Summers and Geithner (Bernanke too) didn't fill me full of hope.

The government is now run by the Wall St./big finance, the military industrial complex, big PhRMA, "healthcare" insurance companies and the prison industrial/security state complex. The US is already a proto-fascist, corporatist state.

History points out (Naomi Klein's, The Shock Doctrine) that Friedmanism/Reaganism of ANY degree is destructive. Friedmanism is nothing but classism with religious overtones (no regulation; the "mystery" of the "free market", etc.): the wealthy, well-positioned class remain that way if not get even richer while the rest of us suffer.

I was hoping for a "cleaner" break from the past 30+ years with Obama but I suspect he's unable (unwilling?) to affect a more significant course correction.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:37 PM
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28. One of the best pieces I've ever read on here
I'm glad that the mods have allowed this piece. After all its not exactly praising the Democratic Party.
But it needs to be said. What happens when the Democratic Party runs off of a cliff? Do we at DU run off with them? Its about time the "base" started making noise. Not against the Democratic Party per se but rather for what they could be, what they perhaps once were, what we expect them to be.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:10 PM
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40. My Sentiments Toward the Party
Its about time the "base" started making noise. Not against the Democratic Party per se but rather for what they could be, what they perhaps once were, what we expect them to be.


You hit the nail on the head. I care and that's why it hurts so much and engenders such anger.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:01 PM
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47. K&R!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:08 PM
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29. Very Good Post... Very. Very Sad, But Very, Very True! And The
Repukes must be salivating!!
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Skelly Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:37 PM
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30. Excellent post as far as it goes
I echo other posters to say you have put into words what many of us are feeling. However, where do we go from here? What are we to do? IOW- what is the solution?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 04:54 PM
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33. Excellent points!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 05:21 PM
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35. AMEN, Brother Frank!! Tell it like it is! K & R
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 07:53 PM
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36. This is not news to anyone whose bee paying attention
The real question is "Where do we go from here?"
The big money and the corporations have always had control of the US government. Any gains made by the people of the United States have been paid for in blood, and are always subject to being taken away by the next junta. For example social security has been largely killed by simply fudging the COLA formulae. Its the old salami game where you just steal a slice at a time. One of my coworkers mother is still working at 83 because she only gets 700 a month. They give in a little under pressure, but then gradually take it back. The gains made by the Union movement through the 1940's and fifties have been mostly erased by moving jobs to right to work for less states and offshore jobs. These are just two examples of hard fought gains that have been sliced away.
The real question is how do we organize to actually create a government of the people? I believe that if you wait for a majority it will never happen. While the greatest number of the working class would go along with a more progressive movement they are held back by corporate propaganda and ignorance of the real issues. This combined with a general distrust of all politicians keeps the oligarchy in power. It hasn't really changed since the 1880's. They control the congress, especially the Senate, the courts, the police and local and state governments are afraid of them.
After forty years of political activism I am convinced we need a new party with a goal of maybe 20% of the vote and I believe it is doable. Eugene Debs got 6% in 1912, Ross Perot about 20% but never really started an organization. A 20% bloc could control every Senatorial election in the US.
The only alternative is violent revolution which isn't going to happen and would be counterproductive since violence just begets more of the same. Even in my advanced age I think a coalition of the left is still possible. We have the numbers we just don't have the organization to pull it off. Trying to work within the Democratic Party is hopeless although I know a lot of very good Democrats and have worked with and supported some of them in particularly senator Wellstone and my current rep Keith Ellison.
STAND UP KEEP FIGHTING
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:44 PM
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39. We do hold a power that goes directly to the heart of all
corporations, banks and politicians. That is our money and the "on time" payment of our debts. If we collectively stop paying any debts or bills (all of them) we would bring them down inside two months at the most.
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zenprole Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 03:17 AM
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41. A better punchline
The collusion of government and big business is fascism. That's the textbook definition...before the textbooks and dictionaries were denuded of value, that is.

A good article, A+ for effort, but more people need to shitcan their pretensions and drop the f-bomb. On his best day, Goebbels never had as much control as in today's America. This isn't damaged democracy, or a threat to the middle class (we no longer have one!), but full-blown fascism.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:45 AM
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42. ttt
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:28 PM
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45. Wow Frank, tell us how you really feel....
A great piece of writing and a wakeup all to all those who are asleep.

A rant that ranks up there with Keith's best special comments.

Kick, so more "liberals" can wake-up.

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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:28 PM
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46. right on, we don't need right, left, or center We need perpendicular
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:58 PM
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48. awesome post
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 05:59 PM by Locrian
>>The collusion of government and *big business* spells the death of Democracy.

I would agree with the exception that "big business" has been replaced with the "Finance Industry" ie Wallstreet.

The amount of money in the trading and "Fantasy Football" operations of derivatives et all DWARF the traditional "big business" sector.

We went from "agricultural" revolution, to "industrial" revolution, to "financial" revolution. All along the way becoming more and more divorced from actual "wealth" of natural resources and true worth. So now the entire economy is owned by parasites, and they of course will do whatever it takes to make more and more $$$.

We don't MATTER to them, because we have no influence on the money. That's why this is a "jobless" recovery - for Wall Street it's bonus "harvest" time.

And that is why there is really no dem/repubs that actually care about democracy.


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3rd_Speaker Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 01:37 PM
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49. Clean Elections are the answer
The Clean Elections movement (http://www.fairelections.us) IS THE STARTING POINT.

The Supremes are about to declare again that money = speech and it is unconstitutional to limit the amount spent campaigning so the answer is to negate that advantage. The basics of Clean elections as found in AZ and other places are: 1) prove that you are a serious candidate by collecting $5 with each petition signature, 2) take the public financing pledge (if a non-pledging candidate spends more than the public financed amount, the amount is increased to match the run-away spending, thus negating the big war chest advantage).

The results in AZ is that non-rich citizens have been elected, who are not in debt to big money. The next thing that happened was that those elected represent their electorate. Imagine that.
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