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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:45 PM
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"The man in the big white stone" - this may be required reading
I don't say that lightly. I searched and didn't see it in this forum, so hopefully the age of the piece won't bother anyone. -- Robb

The man in the big white stone:

Thoughts on a visit to the Tomb of the Unknowns

By John Kaminski

(snip)

Once upon a time, not long ago, I did the monuments tour in Washington. It was the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier that really got me thinking. I lit a cigarette in the gray drizzle, surveying the puddles forming on the august granite quadrangle, in the shadow of the majestic Corinthian pillars of the museum nearby. Gazing at the mammoth cube of Colorado marble, I tried to think about the archetypal spirit of the mythical warrior resting inside it.

In the mist, closing my eyes, with as much compassion and respect as I could muster, I dared to say: "Hey buddy, how's it going?"

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:49 PM
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1. John Kaminski is a worthless piece of Nazi slime. He has written numerous
antisemitic, pro-Hitler, and holocaust revisionist columns. This is one of the rare exceptions. Please show better taste in authors.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:54 PM
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2. well maybe you can prove your accusations Sagle

otherwise I'm not gonna take you seriously
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:22 PM
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13. About a half minute with Google suggests Sagle is right ...
Edited on Wed May-12-04 05:26 PM by struggle4progress
Here, for example, are extracts from a Kaminski column:

Because of the unfair treatment Germany had received during the creation of the Treaty of Versailles concluding World War I, and because Jewish bankers engineered that ripoff, Hitler began systematically stripping Jews of the their power in Germany. In 1933, world Jewry declared economic war on Germany...
Zionists worked out a deal with Hitler to ... fleece Jews in Germany...
...there is no written evidence among German documents (and Germans were and are notoriously meticulous record-keepers) that there was any plan for what is now known as the Holocaust. Nor is there any hard, non-Jewish evidence of so-called gas chambers...
http://www.rense.com/general43/britss.htm

In my book, such statements are prima facie evidence of anti-semitism

<edit: I see Sagle already provided this reference in #10 below>
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:55 PM
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3. OMG, Slagle, what a RUDE post !
Edited on Wed May-12-04 12:56 PM by hippiechick
:wow: What has happened to the DU I used to know and love ?

What a snarfy bunch of holier than thou, Politically Correct at all costs, you-shall-not-post-anything-that-we-disagree-with group you all have become !!!


GET A GRIP, this is a board for opinions and discussions !!!


:hippie:
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:08 PM
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4. How was Robb supposed to know that. Is he supposed to vet
every writer of every article he likes? John Kaminski is not exactly a household name.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:27 PM
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7. I know - that's why I didn't make any accusation against Robb.
I'm not THAT hot-headed. Usually.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:35 PM
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8. Why don't you try to back up your claims Sagle?

You post with incredible cerntainty in your claims
but you can't even prove them?
Kinda weak doncha think?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:14 PM
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5. John Kaminski is Right-Wing MIHOP
He's anti-war, anti-government, anti-Israeli. He believes that the OK City bombing was agovernment conspiracy.

He appears to wrestling with some of the same issues DUers do except from the far right. The specific piece seems fine. Why shouldn't it be posted?
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:26 PM
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6. He is anti-Bush, anti-Blare, anti-Zionism... what's wrong with that?
He is not pro Hitler and he certainly is not
anti-Semitic. At any rate, this piece is well written
and worth reading.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:39 PM
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9. Kaminski's latest:
Edited on Wed May-12-04 01:42 PM by Jim Sagle
Why 'The Good War' Wasn't So Good
<snip>
Bits and pieces began to emerge. Worldwide Judea declared all-out war against Germany in the mid-30s. Earlier, the Treaty of Versailles, ramrodded through by President Wilson's Jewish adviser Colonel House, handicapped Germany with onerous financial entanglements, all but guaranteeing, according to some historians, the inevitability of another war.
<snip>
Consider the way the word "Nazi" has been used in our language as a synonym for depravity. After a lifetime of use, the negative connotation is second-nature to us. But Pound didn't see it that way.

He believed that international bankers were on the side of the U.S., Britain and the Soviet Union, and they were all arrayed against Germany. He insisted that without the machinations of the banks and their accomplices in the media, there would have been no war - and no wars ever.

Pound saw the American national tradition being perverted by the aggressive new internationalism, the brainchild of Jews who organized Soviet Communism, long had control of British banks, and manipulated the American President Roosevelt.
Link: http://www.rense.com/general52/tomb.htm

Kaminski is expounding on Ezra Pound's thoughts here, but he is clearly in agreement.

So as I said, he's pro-Nazi and antisemitic. Did any of you REALLY think I couldn't back that up?
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:05 PM
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11. The important point is that you need to back up your claims

I would say that your posts here help do that.
But what I don't care for is the hit and run shit.

People come on here and do that at the mention of
Chomsky and Michael Moore too. It gets
rather tiring and I'm glad that you decided to
at least post something that backs up your claims.

As far as Kaminski himself, I don't really care about him.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:48 PM
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10. Holocaust denial from Kaminski:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 03:41 PM
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12. Tragic, really.
Found the piece on Bartcop, and found myself moved. Had I known about Kaminski's politics, I probably would've alerted on myself. :)

Tragedy. Really well written piece, too. Stopped clock theory? Perhaps some issues are so important they transcend other biases and bigotries?

Hard to say. I certainly wouldn't want to defend the guy, knowing what little I now know having looked him up. Perhaps the thing to take from this is that there is a possibility of common ground between people who have amazingly different views on things. I remember a conflict resolution class, where we took the pro-life and pro-choice camps and found the common ground (neither one wants unwanted babies to exist), and began from there.

I still feel an overwhelming urge to wash my hands. But I'll be hopeful about the whole thing anyhow.
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