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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:57 PM
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Glenn Greenwald: Meet the Press's Idea of a 'Debate'
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Published on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 by Salon.com
Meet the Press's Idea of a 'Debate'

by Glenn Greenwald


On Sunday, Meet the Press hosted a panel discussion to debate two primary issues: (1) foreign policy -- specifically, the war in Afghanistan, and (2) health care. The panel: Rudy Giuliani, Tom Friedman, Harold Ford, Jr., and Tom Brokaw (as Jay Rosen often notes, Meet the Press is doing a fantastic job of fulfilling its pledge to present "fresh voices" in its discussions).

With regard to Afghanistan, there is a major debate currently taking place about whether we should stay in that country. A majority of Americans now opposes the war. But there was not a single participant there who shares that view. All of them believe that it is imperative we remain, and put on their little General hats to exchange deeply Serious analyses of how we need to adjust our strategy and tactics for greater mission success. Of course, all of three of those whose views were known about Iraq -- Friedman, Ford and Giuliani -- were vehement supporters of the invasion. As always, not only does support for that war not produce shame or even impair one's credibility and Seriousness, but the opposite is true: having supported it is a prerequisite for being considered credible and Serious, which is why those are the only people -- still -- from whom we hear when it's time to convene Serious discussions of foreign policy. What an odd filtering standard for The Liberal Media to use.

On health care, the same dynamic repeated itself. The prime controversy in that debate is over the inclusion of a "public option," with large numbers of Americans supporting it. Yet once again, not a single member of the panel advocated it (though David Axelrod was interviewed before the panel and paid lip service to the public option on his way to clearly signaling it would not be part of the ultimate plan). Guiliani warned there would be no health care with a public option; Ford told his "liberal friends in Congress" that they will have to be disappointed by the outcome; Friedman insisted that Obama adopt the proposals of Mitt Romney and John McCain and ensure he has the support of centrist Republicans (Brokaw offered some mild pushback against the attempt to demonize the public option). The words "single payer" were never spoken.

What you had with the health care discussion, just as was true with the Afghanistan debate and the lead-up to the Iraq War, is one that -- by design -- completely excluded any views to the "left" of DLC Chair Harold Ford, even where such views are held by large numbers of Americans. With very rare exception, that is the spectrum of opinion typically allowed on Liberal Media shows like Meet the Press. The Liberal Media doesn't even pretend to include liberal views. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/08-7




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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 05:59 PM
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1. It's almost like they don't want to include all but a narrow range of views ... nt
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:00 PM
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2. Is MTP still on the air? Who knew?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 06:03 PM
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3. Wow! What a wide ranging choice of views..
When is that piece of crap going off the air?
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