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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:47 PM
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So it turns out Pat Boone is STILL alive!
A good friend of mine, who is a Christian, sent this. She said she believed Pat Boone is an intelligent Christian "who has done his research." A-hmmm...

Seriously, I am dumbfounded that the level of idiocy in this rant was able to affect the thinking of my friend, who I consider to be very intelligent. I would very much appreciate any well-considered thoughts on this matter. When a fellow Christian misuses his intellect and power of expression in this way, I just don't know how to respond.

The president without a country
By Pat Boone
(full text at http://www.patboone.com/)

"We're no longer a Christian nation." - President Barack Obama, June 2007

"America has been arrogant." - President Barack Obama

"After 9/11, America didn't always live up to her ideals."- President Barack Obama

"You might say that America is a Muslim nation."- President Barack Obama, Egypt 2009

Thinking about these and other statements made by the man who wears the title of president. I keep wondering what country he believes he's president of.

In one of my very favorite stories, Edward Everett Hale's "The Man without a Country," a young Army lieutenant named Philip Nolan stands condemned for treason during the Revolutionary War, having come under the influence of Aaron Burr. When the judge asks him if he wishes to say anything before sentence is passed, young Nolan defiantly exclaims, "Damn the United States ! I wish I might never hear of the United States again!"

The stunned silence in the courtroom is palpable, pulsing. After a long pause, the judge soberly says to the angry lieutenant: "You have just pronounced your own sentence. You will never hear of the United States again.. I sentence you to spend the rest of your life at sea, on one or another of this country's naval vessels - under strict orders that no one will ever speak to you again about the country you have just cursed."

And so it was. Philip Nolan was taken away and spent the next 40 years at sea, never hearing anything but an occasional slip of the tongue about America. The last few pages of the story, recounting Nolan's dying hours in his small stateroom - now turned into a shrine to the country he fore swore - never fail to bring me to tears. And I find my own love for this dream, this miracle called America , refreshed and renewed. I know how blessed and unique we are.

But reading and hearing the audacious, shocking statements of the man who was recently elected our president - a young black man living the impossible dream of millions of young Americans, past and present, black and white - I want to ask him, "Just what country do you think you're president of?"

You surely can't be referring to the United States of America , can you? America is emphatically a Christian nation, and has been from its inception! Seventy percent of her citizens identify themselves as Christian. The Declaration of Independence and our Constitution were framed, written and ratified by Christians. It's because this was, and is, a nation built on and guided by Judeo-Christian biblical principles that you, sir, have had the inestimable privilege of being elected her president.

You studied law at Harvard, didn't you, sir? You taught constitutional law in Chicago ? Did you not ever read the statement of John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and an author of the landmark "Federalist Papers": "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers - and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation - to select and prefer Christians for their rulers"?

In your studies, you surely must have read the decision of the Supreme Court in 1892: "Our lives and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian."

Did your professors have you skip over all the high-court decisions right up till the mid 1900's that echoed and reinforced these views and intentions? Did you pick up the history of American jurisprudence only in 1947, when for the first time a phrase coined by Thomas Jefferson about a "wall of separation between church and state" was used to deny some specific religious expression - contrary to Jefferson's intent with that statement?

Or, wait a minute . were your ideas about America's Christianity formed during the 20 years you were a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ under your pastor, Jeremiah Wright? Is that where you got the idea that "America is no longer a Christian nation"? Is this where you, even as you came to call yourself a Christian, formed the belief that "America has been arrogant"?

Even if that's the understandable explanation of your damning of your country and accusing the whole nation (not just a few military officials trying their best to keep more Americans from being murdered by jihadists) of "not always living up to her ideals," how did you come up with the ridiculous, alarming notion that we might be "considered a Muslim nation"?

Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans? Out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians? Does that make us, by any rational definition, a "Muslim nation"?

Why are we not, then, a "Chinese nation"? A "Korean nation"? Even a "Vietnamese nation"? There are even more of these distinct groups in America than Muslims. And if the distinction you're trying to make is a religious one, why is America not "a Jewish nation"? There's actually a case to be made for the latter, because our Constitution - and the success of our Revolution and founding - owe a deep debt to our Jewish brothers.

Have you stopped to think what an actual Muslim America would be like? Have you ever really spent much time in Iran? Even in Egypt? You, having been instructed in Islam as a kid at a Muslim school in Indonesia and saying you still love the call to evening prayers, can surely picture our nation founded on the Quran, not the Judeo-Christian Bible, and living under Shariah law. Can't you? You do recall Muhammad's directives to "break the cross" and "kill the infidel"?

It seems increasingly and painfully obvious that you are more influenced by your upbringing and questionable education than most suspected. If you consider yourself the president of a people who are "no longer Christian," who have "failed to live up to our ideals," who "have been arrogant," and might even be "considered Muslim" - you are president of a country most Americans don't recognize.

Could it be you are a president without a country?

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:49 PM
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1. Freaks like this one need to go find their own country and set up an oligarchy
Only then would they die happy.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:49 PM
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2. Well thanks for sharing imbecilic bullshit spam with us.
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 02:55 PM by YOY
Because we all need to know what kind of imbecilic bullshit spam is sent around. Shit so stupid that trying to debunk it would at least grant it some root as the creation of a sane mind without an agenda.

Incidently, if your friend is a follower of the teaching of Christ...I'm a mother fucking ghostbuster.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:54 PM
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6. Well in all fairness, I did think he was dead. It's always a surprise who is and who isn't.
Like when Stephen Hawkings was at the center of the health care debate, I was surprised on two levels: because I thought he was dead and because I thought he lived in Virginia.
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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:20 PM
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12. Not trying to "debunk"
Just respond in some way ... I consider this a community of people who are better at putting words together than I am. Thought there might be some intelligent response out there.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:45 PM
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17. OK then...

it's his opinion and he is entitled to it. I do not agree with his opinion. Now what's yours?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:39 PM
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20. No kidding.
Nothing like posting an entire rant by some washed-up right-wing nut case.

How does this shit turn up here?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:50 PM
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3. Everytime someone says "Pat Boone" all I hear is "monkey shit".
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:52 PM
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4. Wow.
So, you consider your friend intelligent... but she considers pat boone intelligent? I'd pick new friends! If she was really a friend, she's respect you and your beliefs. Sending this kind of nonsense to you isn't respecting you- and yet, you still respect her. You came here and defending her intelligence. You show more respect toward her to strangers than your friend shows to your face.

If I were you, I'd make it clear that sending this kind of foolishness isn't a sign of friendship.

As to the content of the boone rant... wow. That was just a whole bowl of stupid right there. :crazy:
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:52 PM
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5. Pat should just sing"Old Cape Cod" and keep his mouth shut
the rest of the time.
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:11 PM
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7. Just a one-dimensional cut-out doll who never practices what he preaches


Pat Boone is a one-dimensional cut-out doll who never practices what he preaches. He's one of those devout Christians who publicly admits that he cheats/cheated on his wife of 50+ years. Here's another example:

"Is there anything more hallowed, more valued in any society or culture, than the sacred responsibility of teaching?… Personally, I don't think so. In fact, as I neared the end of my own high school years, I determined that I would train to be a high school teacher…. I decided the most worthwhile thing I could do was to teach."


Which, of course, Boone never did. Teaching may be more hallowed, but ripping off Little Richard is much more lucrative, judging by NewsMax's breathless declaration that Boone has "resid(ed) in the same Beverly Hills home where he has lived since 1960."

Pat Boone is a caricature of Christian whiteness. In America, that's a well-paying, long-term gig.
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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:18 PM
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10. Hmmm
Never knew about that cheating thing. Thanks for the tip. That might make this person think twice about taking him seriously.
Personally, I always put him a few wingnut turns past Paul Harvey, but didn't know anybody was actually paying attention to him.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:14 PM
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8. Pat Boone
The fossil of hate.
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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:15 PM
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9. I should have said...
... who I thought was very intelligent up til today! Thanks for the responses, those of you who took the time to consider how I might respond to someone I hold in my heart as a friend. I'm sure everyone out there has at least one person in your life who you feel a close friendship with, but whose views might knock you off your feet once in awhile. I was writing because I don't know how to respond politely; sure, "monkey shit" and "motherfucking ghostbuster" might work for some people, but not in this case.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:19 PM
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11. I was going to post it, but I choose not to offend.
Google "Pat Boones dick in a box" in a image search, and send that to your "friend" who thinks he's an "intelligent Christian".
Pat Boone is a whore, just like the rest of his ilk.

"Could it be you are a president without a country"?

Could it be your a moron with your dick sticking out of a shoe box, and a career that's 30 years in the rear view mirror?
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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:21 PM
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13. Love your tagline! n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:22 PM
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18. I found a dick in a jacket

orange in fact

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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:34 PM
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19. His career is only 30 years in the rear-view?
I was thinking closer to 50 years!
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:20 PM
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14. I highly doubt Pat Boone wrote this
The man has never done anything original his whole life.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:36 PM
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15. Does he still wear a coonskin hat?
:-)
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:40 PM
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16. It's too bad that people like Pat Boone ARE still alive ...
while we lose the likes of Ted Kennedy. Pat has become loonier by the minute and fits right in with his RW kindred.

The following is from Wiki, highlighting his recent ventures into the realm of politics. A nice guy? Most definitely NOT.

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<...>In 2006, Boone wrote an article for WorldNetDaily, in which he argued that Democrats and others who were against the President during the Iraq War could be questioned for their patriotism.<8> He was interviewed by Neil Cavuto on Fox News, where he expressed his outrage against the opponents of George W. Bush (namely the Dixie Chicks) that their criticisms of the President showed they did not "respect their elders."<9> Another article defended Mel Gibson after the actor was recorded making an antisemitic rant.<10>

In early 2007, Boone wrote two articles claiming that the theory of evolution is an "absurd," "nonsensical" "bankrupt false religion."<11><12> He later wrote an editorial in the form of a fairy tale where a young Prince Charming was seduced by a dwarf, got AIDS, and then overdosed.<13>

In the 2007 Kentucky gubernatorial election, Pat Boone campaigned for incumbent Republican Ernie Fletcher with a prerecorded automated telephone message stating that the Democratic Party candidate Steve Beshear would support "every homosexual cause." As part of the campaign, Boone asked, "Now do you want a governor who'd like Kentucky to be another San Francisco?"<14> This caused a great deal of controversy and backlash for Boone.

More recently, he assisted the John McCain 2008 presidential campaign by lending his voice to automated campaign phonecalls.

On December 6, 2008 Pat Boone wrote an article for WorldNetDaily wherein he drew analogies between recent gay rights protests, and recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India. He reminds readers of hostage taking, exploding bombs systematic murder and chaotic conditions of carnage. In it, he asserts that marriage is a biblically ordained institution, which the government has no part in defining. He then states that equal rights for women, blacks and slavery were not "obtained by threats and violent demonstrations and civil disruption" but rather through due process. He concludes by warning that unless they're checked, the "hedonistic, irresponsible, blindly selfish goals and tactics of homegrown sexual jihadists will escalate into acts vile, violent and destructive."<15> The Human Rights Campaign has called this article "a new low in anti-gay rhetoric".

On August 29, 2009, Boone wrote an article comparing liberals to cancer, describing them as "black filthy cells".<16> <...>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Boone

:puke:
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