The McLaughlin Group: Pat Buchanan and Monica Crowley Claim the Government Wants to Promote Suicide

[Purveyor]

John McLaughlin uses Pat Buchanan's fear mongering framing for his question on end of life counseling to begin this segment. Buchanan claims that to save money, a government official is going to visit your house if you're ill, and suggest suicide to you. Of course nitwit Monica Crowley is happy to chime right like the good little right winger that she is and agrees with him.

Eleanor Clift attempts to inject some sanity back into the conversation, but isn't helped by her supposed "liberal" (cough) on the panel, Mort Zuckerman who starts railing about whether people ought to have a right to kill themselves if they're in chronic pain, thus throwing a little red meat back to Buchanan and Crowley. Pat literally goes into a hissy fit about the government wanting to kill people to save money before the segment is over.

Does anyone else think that Pat Buchanan has just had a complete mental meltdown since President Obama got elected? Watching this guy is like looking at a car wreck in slow motion. I keep waiting for his head to literally explode on the air one of these days.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/mclaughlin-group-pat-buchanan-and-monica-crowley

[noiretextatique]

1. yes...the crusty old racist bastard

has lost what was left of his tiny mind.

[BlooInBloo]

2. LOLOLOL!!!

[tularetom]

3. It's OK - he's in the demographic that Obama's death panels will weed out

He's awakened to his worst nightmare - a black guy has been elected president and is doing a better job than most of the white guys who had the job for the past 50 years. I used to be able to tolerate him in small doses but he's gotten worse. His voice now goes up about 2 octaves to screechy annoying range and his exaggerated hand chop now appears totally beyond his control.

I suppose it might be fun to watch him go totally bonkers and have to be restrained by some big (preferably black) psychiatric attendants and carried off the set in a straight jacket.

[flakey_foont]

4. Buchanan continues to embarass himself

and the nation in general..........why is he still given facetime on TV? How many people still take seriously any of his rantings?

It is very sad to watch this guy

[LaurenG]

5. Well if that's true they need to apologize and compensate Kevorkian

for time served. How funny our sneaky government is...They made suicide no longer against the law in many states, without anyone knowing about it!. :sarcasm:

United States
Historically, various states listed the act as a felony, but all were reluctant to enforce it. By 1963, six states still considered attempted suicide a crime (North and South Dakota, Washington, New Jersey, Nevada, and Oklahoma that repealed its law in 1976). By the early 1990s only two US states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification. In some U.S. states, suicide is still considered an unwritten "common law crime," as stated in Blackstone's Commentaries. (So held the Virginia Supreme Court in Wackwitz v. Roy in 1992.) As a common law crime, suicide can bar recovery for the family of the suicidal person in a lawsuit unless the suicidal person can be proven to have been "of unsound mind." That is, the suicide must be proven to have been an involuntary, not voluntary, act of the victim in order for the family to be awarded money damages by the court. This can occur when the family of the deceased sues the caregiver (perhaps a jail or hospital) for negligence in failing to provide appropriate care.<4> Some legal scholars look at the issue as one of personal liberty. According to Nadine Strossen, President of the ACLU, "The idea of government making determinations about how you end your life, forcing you...could be considered cruel and unusual punishment in certain circumstances, and Justice Stevens in a very interesting opinion in a right-to-die raised the analogy."<5>

In many jurisdictions medical facilities are empowered or required to commit anyone whom they believe to be suicidal for evaluation and treatment. See Code 5150 for example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_views_of_suicide

[Libertas1776]

6. St. Patrick of Buchananomics

can go fuck himself. I still don't know how somebody who writes a revisionist history book about how WWII was an unnecessary war pushed by Churchill and Roosevelt, and could have been prevented by simply drawing a line east of France and basically saying to Hitler...HERE! Take the rest, just go no further, and still be considered a credible source of punditry.

[Sanity Claws]

7. McLaughlin assumes that the RW shit is accurate

He wasn't listening to Eleanor Clift. McLaughlin had his show set up on the assumption that death counseling was in the bill and that it was different from living wills.
No wonder people are misinformed. The media are misinforming them.
Ignorant POS.

[Libertas1776]

9. That is because

McLaughlin is bat shit crazy to begin with. Whenever I see that show, I immediately think of the SNL Dana Carvey Parody.

....................

John McLaughlin: Wrong! There is life after death. The soul does not ascend to heaven but rather rests in a limbo state that varies depending on the karma of the spirit. Issue number 4: Intelligent beings on other planets, yes or no? Pat Buchanan!

Pat Buchanan: I would think so.

John McLaughlin: Eleanor Clift!

Eleanor Clift: Don't know.

John McLaughlin: Jack Germonde!

Jack Germonde: Me, either.

John McLaughlin: Mortontown!

Morton Kondracke: Well, no one really knows..

John McLaughlin: Wrong! There is intellegent life in the 11th galaxy on the planet Neptar, which will conquer Earth in the year 5482, utilizing us for slave labor in their Chellonian salt mines.

[kimmerspixelated]

10. Right! But it's like a

trainwreck, you can't turn away from! McGlaughlin is a natural comedian, totally!

[grytpype]

8. Crazy racist liars with a permanent seat on every network...

what's it going to take to get rid of them?