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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:22 AM
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Gov. Bobby Jindal vetoes bill to ban guns near parade routes
BATON ROUGE -- At the request of the National Rifle Association, Gov. Bobby Jindal has vetoed a bill that would have made it a crime to illegally carry firearms within 1,000 feet of a sanctioned parade or demonstration.


Gov. Bobby Jindal"The National Rifle Association and others have requested (a) veto of this bill in part because it does not exempt firearm carriers with a valid (state-issued) permit . . . or unintentional violators, " Jindal said in his veto message. He said he has already signed into law a bill making it a crime to recklessly discharge a firearm within 1,000 feet of a parade or other public gathering.

A statement on the NRA's Web site urged members to thank Jindal for vetoing House Bill 523 by Rep. Gregory Ernst, R-New Orleans. It said Ernst's bill "posed an unacceptable risk to those who lawfully carry a concealed firearm. NRA's main concern was that the bill could be interpreted to create an outright prohibition on the carrying of a firearm within 1,000 feet of a permitted parade or demonstration except as specifically authorized in the bill."


The right to carry a gun in one of the most dangerous cities in America during the Mardi Gras season will the free-flowing alcohol and the illegal drug problem...That will surely help drop the murder rate! What about the safety for children, families, and tourists who travel from all over the world to go to the parades??? :mad: I guess my priorities are a little different than the governor's...how did this guy get voted into office? :crazy:

The bill already exempted guns carried by active and retired law enforcement personnel; firearms in a vehicle, a home or on private property within the zone; weapons used on a hunting preserve or gun club for skeet or target shooting; or carrying a firearm to or from a place "of lawful purchase or repair" in the 1,000-foot radius.


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/07/gov_bobby_jindal_vetoes_bill_t.html
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:27 AM
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1. Yeah, I dont get it
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 09:29 AM by rd_kent
I mean, most of the gun deaths in the country are from people who legally own and use their guns, not criminals who would have a gun regardless if they were legal or not. A ban on guns would just stop all the violence immediately, right?
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:33 AM
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2. Guns at Mardi Gras...
No, that's never been a problem in the past.:banghead:
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:38 AM
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3. What about the safety for children...?
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 09:46 AM by Redneck Socialist
:rofl:

How is carrying a gun near a parade any different than carrying one in the mall or to the grocery store?

Is there something about marching bands that will cause people with a concealed carry license to suddenly flip? Maybe shoot the drummers if they can't keep the rhythm?
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:01 AM
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5. If you don't see the difference
I don't know what to say! The safety of children and ROFL shouldn't be in the same sentence.

Interesting Username, Redneck Socialist

Just Sayin' :rant:
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HarveyBrooks Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:14 AM
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6. "How is carrying a gun near a parade any different than carrying one in the mall or to...
the grocery store?"

It's not. Guns shouldn't be allowed in any of those places.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:57 AM
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8. See, I can understand that argument
Disagree with it, but understand it.

But the idea that parades are somehow exceptional areas and guns are extra special bad there makes no sense. It's just more feel good silliness. Someone inclined to carry a gun without a permit isn't going to be deterred by the presence of a parade and a parade isn't going to magically cause an otherwise law abiding concealed carry permit holder to become a homicidal maniac.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 11:48 PM
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15. But they are allowed, for licensed individuals
If you have a problem with that, you need to take it up with the state legislatures that allowed concealed-carry for licensees over the prophecies of blood in the streets, which blood seems not to have materialized.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:47 AM
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4. Jindal is right on this one.
Louisiana has state-issued permits that allow people to carry firearms in public areas. Randonm people can't carry guns, it's already regulated.

Why should being within 1000 feet of a parade effect that status?
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:14 AM
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7. Just change the effin bill to,,,
a bill that would have made it a crime to carry firearms within 1,000 feet of a sanctioned parade or demonstration. PERIOD

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 11:00 AM
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9. What fun is a parade if you can't shoot at a float?

I wonder where will it end...
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 12:21 PM
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10. I'm actually more concerned about these words:
"or demonstration."

Really?
Demonstrations?
Sounds like a whole lotta intimidation coming...
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 12:48 PM
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11. To be clear, it's illegal to drink while carrying a firearm. Period.
If you do, you're committing a federal felony that will lose you your ability to own a gun ever again.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 01:20 PM
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13. Not exactly
LA allow for .05 BAC

http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/louisiana-ccw-state-laws.php

And my state has no laws regarding guns and alcohol what-so-ever, at least none that I'm aware of.

That being said, guns and alcohol don't mix.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 12:51 PM
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12. Oh, and memo to the LA legislature: "illegally carrying" a gun is already illegal.
If you want to make it more serious, change the law so that such a crime cannot be plea-bargained. Usually gun charges are considered "packing peanuts" by DAs who are looking to avoid a trial by piling on the extra charges, then throwing most of them away in exchange for a plea bargain to a lesser offense.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 11:46 PM
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14. "Make it a crime to illegally carry guns..."?
Umm....
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 11:57 PM
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16. That's right up there with allowing guns in bars - CRAZY
though after JFK, and other's you'd think we know better by now... or does this exclude political parades?
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