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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:42 AM
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Civil Liberties Invasion: Fingerprinting You for a Speeding Ticket?
by Pete Kotz

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/05/civil_liberties_invasion_finge.php

Tennessee's police chiefs want to fingerprint people for such minor violations as rolling through a stop sign or allowing their lawn to become overgrown. It's hard to blame them. Anything that expands a fingerprint database naturally makes their job easier. And that, in turn, makes us all safer, right?

Well, not quite. Maybe I'm just getting weird here, but there's something wrong with a law that presumes everyone's a potential felon. It's one thing to force fingerprints when you're nicked for a legitimate crime, like knocking over a liquor store. But it's entirely another matter when granny gets hit for driving 34 through a school zone. Perhaps 90 percent of the population will never commit a significant crime, which speaks to a great deal of wasted effort. And if you're Mr. and Mrs. Law Abiding, haven't you earned the right to live free of these hassles?

What's especially curious is that the bill overwhelmingly passed the Tennessee House. These are the guys so paranoid about big government that they're already preparing for martial law. My question: When the New World Order comes, and they already have our fingerprints, won't it be that much harder to run a respectable guerrilla war?


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"These are the guys so paranoid about big government that they're already preparing for martial law."

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/04/t.php
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:46 AM
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1. why don't we just make it easier on ourselves....
let's just collect fingerprints and DNA from every man, woman and child and put them in a database. so what if a baby is 2 days old and hasn't done anything wrong yet... they probably will eventually!! why don't we just have EVERYONEs information on file forever!! wouldn't that just save a lot of time for everyone.

:sarcasm:
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:10 AM
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2. Why fingerprint for traffic violations?
They fingerprint you when you get your license. Why spend more money and manpower?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:13 AM
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5. in what state do they fingerprint for drivers license??
that's nuts.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:52 AM
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7. The California DMV takes a thumbprint.
n/t
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:27 AM
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8. Texas
They started the program several years ago. It's the only way they would ever have gotten my prints, and I suspect that's pretty much the same for anyone who has never been arrested. I don't mind, if it helps them catch one murderer or rapist, it's a small inconvenience.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:49 PM
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10. how will YOUR prints on file help them find a rapist or murderer??
Think about it.

HOW?????????????????

(Unless you are a murderer or a rapist.)
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:25 AM
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3. Tennessee. That about sums it up.
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:56 AM
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4. Yep . . . n/t.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:15 AM
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6. when dissent is criminalized...
...citizens will rue the day they allowed the compilation of these databases. I believe -- I have always believed -- this is the biggest threat to our liberty.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:31 PM
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9. Amen!
Another block in the wall of the Police State.
We are going to have to take our country back sooner or later, sooner will be fewer problems and deaths if it comes down to having to do it with pitchforks and torches against guns it will be a bloody mess.
I think there is less chance of the police state getting too far under the dems, it was the fascist gop that brought us the two wars, torture, the bank bail outs. I wish the dems would get a spine and bring RICO and Anti-Trust charges against these transnational banks that have ripped us off instead of giving them our f------$
Im almost glad our household is too poor to be tempted by the Wall Street Casino, I was never really tempted any way. It has always been paycheck to paycheck with nothing left over to even save for a rainy day..rainy days that came all to frequently.
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