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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:29 PM
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Thoughts on Pot vs. Alcohol from a Former Police Chief
Interesting, coming from a former police chief (though I do hope his use of "fair and balanced" for Fox was sarcastic!!!)

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Hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur annually. There has never been a single recorded marijuana OD fatality.

According to the American Public Health Association, excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading cause of death in this country. APHA pegs the negative economic impact of extreme drinking at $150 billion a year.

There have been no documented cases of lung cancer in a marijuana-only smoker, nor has pot been scientifically linked to any type of cancer. (Don't trust an advocate's take on this? Try the fair and balanced coverage over at Fox.) Alcohol abuse contributes to a multitude of long-term negative health consequences, notably cirrhosis of the liver and a variety of cancers.

"While a small quantity, taken daily, is being touted for its salutary health effects, alcohol is one of the worst drugs one can take for pain management, marijuana one of the best.

Alcohol contributes to acts of violence; marijuana reduces aggression. In approximately three million cases of reported violent crimes last year, the offender had been drinking. This is particularly true in cases of domestic violence, sexual assault, and date rape. Marijuana use, in and of itself, is absent from both crime reports and the scientific literature. There is simply no link to be made.

Over the past four years I've asked police officers throughout the U.S. (and in Canada) two questions. When's the last time you had to fight someone under the influence of marijuana? (I'm talking marijuana only, not pot plus a six-pack or a fifth of tequila.) My colleagues pause, they reflect. Their eyes widen as they realize that in their five or fifteen or thirty years on the job they have never had to fight a marijuana user. I then ask: When's the last time you had to fight a drunk? They look at their watches.

All of which begs the question. If one of these two drugs is implicated in dire health effects, high mortality rates, and physical violence--and the other is not--what are we to make of our nation's marijuana laws? Or alcohol laws, for that matter.

Anybody out there want to launch a campaign for the re-prohibition of alcohol? Didn't think so. The answer, of course, is responsible drinking. Marijuana smokers, for their part, have already shown (apart from that little matter known as the law) greater responsibility in their choice of drugs than those of us who choose alcohol.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norm-stamper/420-thoughts-on-pot-vs-al_b_188627.html

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:33 PM
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1. Alcohol is a poison. THC is not. nt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:33 PM
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2. Not true about the violence part...
I once saw a stoner completely OBLITERATE a bag of Cheetos...I would not want to be that bag. Then the scumbag had the nerve to masticate all over...in public!!!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:37 PM
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4. There you go, pot causes public mastication. nt
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No More Bushbots Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:46 PM
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6. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHEETOS?
Or Oreos.
I often wake up screaming at night, thinking of the horrors that have been committed.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 01:01 PM
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7. Or the Chip's Ahoy cookies
Who now talk and have feelings. :hide: :scared:
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:37 PM
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3. Truly bizarro world.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:38 PM
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5. Thanks for posting this - great column!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 01:03 PM
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8. You're preaching to the converted when it comes to me. I have been
advocating treating marijuana like we do alcohol for over 20 years. Gateway drug, my ass.
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:09 PM
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9. We have consensus here
It seems 80% of freepers are potheads or at least anti drug war; who knew. So the drug warriors are mostly, really, the fundies not so much the rednecks.

I think the public at large is changing on this. Any congressperson may be on safe ground to advocating change.

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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:57 PM
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10. I once pointed these weed vs. alcohol arguments out to a group of alcoholics.
Certain she'd uncovered the true rationale for this transparent line of reasoning, one woman rhetorted, "I think that's just wishful thinking."

Who needs facts when they possess such razor sharp powers of psychoanalysis?

Clearly the problem is more than ignorance -- it's WILLFUL ignorance. In other words, people don't know the truth, and they don't WANT to know the truth. Ignorance is at its most pernicious when it masquerades as righteousness.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:33 PM
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11. And then there's Michael Phelps
The comedian said "So Kellog's dumped Michael Phelps for 6 months, 'cuz he might have smoked pot. DO THEY KNOW WHO BUYS ALL THOSE POP-TARTS AND FROSTED FLAKES??? hUH? Look, I only ever met three guys named Snap, Crackle, and Pop - they were dope dealers!"
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:50 PM
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12. Someone should tell Michael Phelps that winners don't use drugs.
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