Chuck Norris and Glenn Beck Want to Cut-and-Run

[Joanne98]

by Dana Houle aka DHinMI


Chuck Norris wants to give up. He doesn't think it's worth fighting anymore, and that we should just get out. Who's "we" and what does "get out" mean? In this case, "we" is apparently those who hate most or all the rest of America, and "get out" means seceding from the union:

When I appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show, he told me that someone had asked him, "Do you really believe that there is going to be trouble in the future?" And he answered, "If this country starts to spiral out of control and Mexico melts down or whatever, if it really starts to spiral out of control, before America allows a country to become a totalitarian country (which it would have under I think the Republicans as well in this situation; they were taking us to the same place, just slower), Americans won't stand for it. There will be parts of the country that will rise up." Then Glenn asked me and his listening audience, "And where's that going to come from?" He answered his own question, "Texas, it's going to come from Texas. Do you agree with that Chuck?" I replied, "Oh yeah!" Definitely.

It was these types of thoughts that led me to utter the tongue-n-cheek frustration on Glenn Beck's radio show, "I may run for president of Texas!"

I'm not saying that other states won't muster the gumption to stand and secede, but Texas has the history to prove it. As most know, Texas was its own country before it joined the Union as its 28th state. From 1836 to 1846, Texas was its own Republic. Washington-on-the-Brazos (river) served as our Philadelphia, Pa. It was there, on March 2, 1836, where a band of patriots forged the Texas Declaration of Independence. (We just celebrated these dates last week.)

Anyone who has been around Texas for any length of time knows exactly what we'd do if the going got rough in America. Let there be no doubt about that. As Sam Houston once said, "Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."

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For those losing hope, and others wanting to rekindle the patriotic fires of early America, I encourage you to join Fox News' Glenn Beck, me and millions of people across the country in the live telecast, "We Surround Them," on Friday afternoon (March 13 at 5 p.m. ET, 4 p.m. CT and 2 p.m. PST). Thousands of cell groups will be united around the country in solidarity over the concerns for our nation. You can host or attend a viewing party by going to Glenn's website. My wife Gena and I will be hosting one from our Texas ranch, in which we've invited many family members, friends and law enforcement to join us. It's our way of saying "We're united, we're tired of the corruption, and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Well, I'm glad they're convening on a Texas ranch. Because, you know, gun-loving people making seditious comments on Texas ranches...well, that never turns out bad. As Kossack ablington sardonically put it, "it's like the Obama house parties, but with more guns!"

Chuck Norris is an entertainer, a buffoon, and probably isn't willing to do anything that will hurt his earning potential in C films, bad television shows and martial arts clinics. This is just a bunch of talk. But words can have consequences, and the fact that he's stewing this up with a hatemonger like Glenn Beck means it's not hard to imagine some deranged sorts taking this to be a call to violent action. Unchallenged, such talk also contributes to an environment where its seen as acceptable, normal, even desirable to talk about secession, violence against the government, and violence against innocents as an act against the government. The distance from rampant talk about violence against the government and nativist terrorism is not all that great. Just think back to Timothy McVeigh and Oklahoma City.

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[YOY]

1. Insert "tough guy Chuck Norris joke" here:

n/t

[acmavm]

2. No joke, just the obvious observance that Chuckie took way

too many hits to the head.

(Thanks to the DUer here who told me that he was a Karate champ at one time. I have never cared enough about Norris to try to figure out how he wormed his pathetically ignorant ass into the public eye so I had to ask. And some really helpful DUer helped me out.)

[YOY]

3. He truly was a great martial artist. He was also a good action star in the making,

Enter the Dragon:



He's basically now a B-level star and a flaming born again fundie. I mean a total Jack Chick, Huckabee, Televangelists level evangelical fundie.

[Joanne98]

6. And he paints sweat on his chest. lol

[liberal N proud]

4. I say we find these people an island in the pacific

Then we can have a real survivor where the only way off the island is in a box.

[woodwrite]

5. For what it's worth...

Vermont was also its own republic before finally joining the fledgling US government. Today, and for some time it has had an ongoing secession-favoring constituency, one really invigorated by the Bush years, to say the least. It is called the Second Vermont Republic, headed by ex-Duke economics professor Thomas Naylor. Three years ago, I wrote a bill for the group, advancing the doctrine of "prior dissent" by the state in the event of a Bush martial law declaration, and the bill made it to the state legislature,... where it failed. But Vermont's feelings about secession are a great deal more enlightened than the crap coming out of Texas, have no doubt.

[ixion]

7. "Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression" ... there is irony in this statement

Texas is one of the most oppressive places I have ever lived ( I was there 3 years). So I don't know what the hell Norris is talking about.