Obama's Latin America learning curve

[CHIMO]

A couple of weeks ago, I ran into a young man who had joined the US Marines and just completed basic training. I asked him where he expected to be deployed.

"Afghanistan," he replied. No surprise there, but then he stunned me by saying: "The commander told us that after Afghanistan, we'll probably be sent to Mexico."

If officers in the US military are telling soldiers to prepare for duty in Mexico, it seems unlikely that President Barack Obama will be able to ignore Latin America for much longer. And the possibility of a violent implosion in Mexico – the kind that could lead some Americans to demand military intervention there – has already been raised in Washington. Drug violence took nearly 5,400 lives in Mexico last year, and is spreading into Arizona and other parts of the US southwest. The US Joint Forces Command recently issued a report warning that Mexico "could represent a homeland security problem of immense proportions to the United States." It concluded that of all the countries in the world, Pakistan and Mexico are the two most likely to face "rapid and sudden collapse".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/mar/02/obama-latin-america-state-department

[Xipe Totec]

1. Intervention in Mexico would be a very bad idea

And President Obama is no fool.

[bemildred]

2. There are worse things than being a "failed state".

Trying to be an outside occupier of a failed state is one of them.

[Peace Patriot]

3. END the corrupt, failed, murderous U.S. "war on drugs."

Legalize drugs. Cut the price incentive out. Tax it. And the cartels will go away tomorrow.

We learned this back in the 1920s. Prohibition DOESN'T WORK. It creates crimes, gangs, cartels, mafias, gun running, murder and mayhem.

And it furthermore packs the prison system with mostly non-violent offenders. About 70% of the current prison population, crammed into the failing prison system and suffering all those impacts, are non-violent offenders--marijuana or cocaine possession, minor dealing, and a mix other non-violent crimes like prostitution (which should also be legalized). This is costing us billions of dollars, all by itself.

We are paying a high, high price for this insane policy, including BILLIONS and BILLIONS more of our tax dollars going to militarize and nazify countries like Colombia and Mexico.

Mark my words, please. The U.S. "war on drugs" has nothing to do with stopping drug traffic, and everything to do with privatizing Mexico's oil against the will of the people. This is a war all right. And the "war on drugs" is just a tool in that Bushwhack war to corner more oil supplies. I suspect that the Bushwhacks have even fomented the gang warfare in Mexico, to cause more deaths, to get more billions in military "aid" into Mexico and get U.S. troops on the ground as well. It is a long-standing corpo/fascist tactic to destabilize a country, and encourage fascist government "security," to steal the resources, kill leftists and enslave the people. Our corpo/fascists have done this time and again in Latin America, in various ways.

Our corpo/fascists (the Bush Cartel in the lead) are desperate for more oil. They were denied Iran's oil (however that happened--an interesting story, I'm sure). So now they're looking closer to home. (This is why they've been demonizing Hugo Chavez all this time.) The rightwing president of Mexico was given help to steal his very close election against the leftist (who lost by only 0.05%) by the Bushwhacks, with the mandate to privatize Mexico's constitutionally protected oil resource. He hasn't been able to do it yet. There is fierce opposition to it in Mexico. So, Scenario #2: destabilize Mexico by manipulating the drug cartels, and create an excuse for martial law, and privatize the oil in the mayhem. It's also classic Rumsfeld: chaos - opportunity.

I won't give you all of my theory on Rumsfeld's war plan for Venezuela, but do be aware that he has command of vast resources (stolen from us) and can conduct a private oil war--whether or not Obama agrees or participates. There is a plan for "circling the wagons" in the Central American/Caribbean region, and cornering the oil in that region (including Venezuela's northern oil province, where most of Venezuela's oil is, on the Caribbean), as a bulwark against the new South American 'common market' (UNASUR). Two war elements that got little or no notice here, are, 1) the Bushwhack reconstitution of the U.S. 4th Fleet in the Caribbean, which Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, said threatens Brazil's oil reserves, not just Venezuela's; and 2) Brazil proposed a 'common defense' in the context of UNASUR (which all members--every country in South America--have agreed to).

In short, the South Americans are concerned about a grab of their resources. Where is the easiest oil for the Bushwhacks to gain control of? Mexico (if they can subdue the population). Where is the next easiest? Venezuela's Caribbean coast (if they can get the fascists in Venezuela's northern oil province to declare their independence and secede--with private army, Colombian army and/or U.S. military support).

In the talk of the U.S. military in Mexico, we are only seeing a small slice of the picture--the drug cartel shootouts, etc. Pull back, and ask yourself, why do Bushwhacks do anything--such as their billions of dollars in "war on drugs" aid to Mexico, recently, in the midst of their Financial 9/11? They don't do things to stop crime, or to alleviate the suffering of innocents. They do things for greed and power--and for oil!

[tonycinla]

4. An idea

Let us bring ALL the troops home from Iraq and do whatever is necessary to tightly secure our borders and round up ALL the illegal aliens and send them home as humanely as possible.We do not have enough jobs for Americans who need to work.And let us decide as Americans that we need to do all of our own dirty work .Only in agriculture do we need large numbers of aliens(legal) to work.