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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:14 PM
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Expert: Microsoft made $1.5B on 'Vista Capable' campaign
Plaintiffs' economist says Microsoft made $77 per XP license during run-up to Vista

January 4, 2009 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. earned more than $1.5 billion from the sale of PCs marked as "Vista Capable" in the months leading up to the 2007 debut of Windows Vista, according to an expert's estimate.

University of Washington economist Dr. Keith Leffler pegged Microsoft's income from sales of Windows XP licenses on Vista Capable-labeled computers at $1.505 billion. Leffler has testified for the plaintiffs in the ongoing class-action lawsuit that accuses Microsoft of deceiving consumers during its Vista Capable marketing program. The company created the program to maintain PC sales momentum as the launch of Vista neared.

In a heavily redacted document unsealed on Friday, Leffler outlined how he arrived at his estimate.

"In Microsoft's Supplemental Responses, it estimates that it received revenue of from Windows XP licenses installed on upgradeable PCs sold in the U.S. during the April 2006 through January 2007 period," said Leffler, referring to the nine-month run of the Vista Capable campaign. "From the estimates of Windows Capable but not Vista Premium Ready PCs compared to all upgradeable PCs as in Table 1, I estimate that of the from Windows XP licenses on upgradeable PCs were for XP licenses on Vista Capable but not Vista Premium Ready PCs -- those PCs purchased by the Plaintiff class.

"From these figures, I have, therefore, reached the opinion that the Microsoft revenue from the Windows XP licensing on Vista Capable but not Vista Premium Ready PCs sold to Plaintiffs was $1.505 billion," Leffler concluded.

The "Vista Premium Ready" program was a separate marketing campaign that Microsoft promoted with stickers affixed to PCs able to run all versions of Vista, including the pricier and more feature-packed Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate editions.

The unsealed document was not the first time that Leffler had set Microsoft's take from Vista Capable. In an exhibit attached to a Nov. 20, 2008 filing, Leffler not only estimated the XP licensing revenue at just over $1.5 billion, but also said that computer makers sold approximately 19.4 million PCs in the U.S. that met the Vista Capable criteria, but not the higher Vista Premium Ready requirements.

However, Leffler did not spell out the amount Microsoft received from computer manufacturers for each of those 19.4 million XP licenses. Microsoft jealously guards its OEM pricing, and has repeatedly demanded that documents in the case have such information redacted. But simple calculations show Leffler estimated that Microsoft received an average of $77.57 for each copy of XP it sold to computer makers during the Vista Capable program.

The lawsuit, which began in April 2007, claims that marking hardware as Vista Capable inflated the prices of PCs that were able to run only Vista Home Basic, the lowest-priced edition of the OS that lacks such features as the Aero user interface. Microsoft has denied it duped consumers, and has countered that Home Basic is a legitimate version of Vista.

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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:16 PM
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1. There's an oxymoron - "Vista Capable"
:rofl:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:22 PM
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4. While there's plenty to hate about Vista . . .
Or any Microsoft operating system . . .

Or any computer operating system whatsoever . . .

It doesn't strike me as accurate to suggest that Vista isn't capable. It may be more trouble than it's worth (that's what the marketplace seems to be saying), but if your definition is restricted to stable operation, it meets the criterion.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:35 PM
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5. No, it still sucks. While stability is marginally improved over XP SP3...
...it's glitchy in its filesystem exploring, takes 3x longer to burn a disc - that is IF it burns it at all, and it bitches about EVERYTHING. Most of the time, I have to boot into my XP disc to get anything done. :puke:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:53 PM
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8. Your mileage clearly varies.
I haven't had any of the problems you describe.

Well, except for the bitching part. I've assimilated the auto-kvetch function into my hindbrain, and can banish such messages almost before they're displayed (hence not interrupting my work).
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:17 PM
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2. Sheep get sheared. nt
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:19 PM
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3. Mocrosoft's products always stretch the capabilities of the installed hardware base . . .
That's why hardware makers love them so.

I think MSoft's argument in this case -- "we've been doing it this way for 20 years and no one's won a suit against us yet (for this practice anyway)" -- might be pretty compelling.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:41 PM
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6. Vista sucks so bad they advertise it as Mojave..!!
i have Vista64, works ok most of the time, but i did get another hard drive and put XP32, i boot from BIOS when i need it
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oldnslo Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:24 PM
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7. The Vista creation team should have their hearts ripped out.
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