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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:22 AM Original message |
Is Obama Screwing His Base with Rahm Emanuel Selection? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. No |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. In Fact, He's Doing Us a Favor |
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Boo Boo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Yup. That's how I see it. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Also Chiefs of Staff never last long. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
104. Pretty much my thoughts, too. This could be a smart move. Someone ELSE will head DCCC now. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. Rahm is Not Impartial Enough to Be a Gate Keeper |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I never really paid attention to Rahm I all remember about him is that strange scene |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. He took credit because he was the head of the D-Triple-C. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. You do know that Rahm specializes in stabbing Republicans in the neck, right? |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. That's what I keep hearing. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Then give Obama a chance before assuming the worst. There will be plenty of time |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Will do. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Thanks, and I will be right up there jumping on not only Obama, but Congress |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
38. That's Not my Issue with Him.... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. I dare say that Obama's going to make his own decisions. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. no...being DLC is worse |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. What? |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Who |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. IMHO, it was a smart move to select Emmanuel. Sorry, that you feel disappointed already. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I agree. He has tremendous experience in Congress to get things pushed through |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. He's good at pushing things through. That's great. Our things I hope! |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. We will know soon enough /nt |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. Like NAFTA. nt |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. I'm not just disappointed, I'm SHOCKED! I admit I didn't pay any attention to this. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. No, he is not. |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No kidding |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. It is a great pick for a President who intends to get sh#$ done. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. I haven't been paying attention. I hope you're right. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'll try to find some of the links with details. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
9. Obama's a confident guy. He appointed himself a devil's advocate |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
61. You echoed my thoughts precisely. |
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JPettus (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
64. On top of that |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. Please don't start this shit |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Original message |
This is the same crap that bohner is throwning at us. Obama hasn't even started his term |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. The fact that the republicans are shitting themselves right now |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I noticed that. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. He isn't screwing anybody. Can you wait and see what happens when he takes office |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Wait and see is good. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. What is the fucking problem? |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Did you read the article? This is Alternet by the way! |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. I read it. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
19. Rec. He's a big "more blood and gore in the ME" buff. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
21. Rahm's strengths are his dogged determination and his tenacity ... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Sounds good |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. I Already Saw Obama As Pragmatic |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. I saw him as pragmatic too. That's not what bothers me. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. He chose the guy that Clinton assigned the job of pushing NAFTA through. |
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blue97keet (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. NAFTA |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. I have a few years on you and right now this nation needs a heavy hand to |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Hey I'm with you. I want them in jail too. |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
31. We all knew this was going |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
32. I predicted this during the primaries. I was drowned out by all the |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I missed your prediction. I expect this stuff, but I don't think I'm going to like Rahm at all. |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
33. This type of talk is no different to me than hearing the religious far right wing lay claim to |
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Cattledog (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. 5 days and everyone is complaining already. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm not complaining. But I better not hear "Colombia Free Trade Agreement" |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. No kidding. Not in office for over 70 days yet, but we have issues. Good God. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm not buying the "screwing his base" on this frame. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. No. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
47. Okay. I'm taking you guys advice. A wait and see attitude. Now I'm going to go get some wine! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. No and I think it is time to "move on", Obama has a government to form. This sniping from the |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. No. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. yes |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
54. Obama deserves 100% freedom to choose his own inner circle |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. The power of the gatekeeper is inversely proportional to the IQ of the Pres. |
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Rydz777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. If you consider yourself an old woman at 55, you are clearly |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
58. I just think anybody that thinks Rahm is going to control Obama is not paying attention. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
59. look at how corrupt the party is |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
60. Blue dogs owe him their hides |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Hmm, that's a very, very interesting point. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
62. Anyone who tries to screw with the new president is going to end up |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
63. I bet Rahm had a hand in Harry finally standing up to Holy Joe |
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Dj13Francis (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
65. Obama is no progressive. |
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italiangirl (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
67. Rahm Emanuel |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Welcome to DU! |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Nobody knows.. but I trust Obama. We all need to WAIT. eom |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
71. N.O. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
72. The right-wing hate him, the left wing doesn't trust him. |
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PinkoDonkey (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
73. Rahm=passing legislation=CHANGE |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
74. no |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. My answer - it's too soon to tell if we are being screwed |
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az chela (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
78. Ending the war and bringing the troops home should be |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
79. How can DUers be so ignorant about the role of Chief of Staff |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
80. What were his investments? I'd like to know what his vested interests |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
81. freakin far left BS |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
82. Emmanuel votes with House Democrats 98.5% of the time: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
83. I wonder if agreeing to put DLC types in high positions was the price |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. You don't have to bribe someone to do something they would have done willingly |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. And that's why both H. Clinton and Obama were my last choices for the nomination |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. And yet they earned the most and second most number of votes from Democratic voters |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Since the MSM acted as if H.Clinton and Obama were the only candidates, |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Google news has over 15,000 hits about john Edwards in Janauary 2008: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Yeah, as compared to how many for Clinton and Obama, and how many |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Randy Crow didn't get much press coverage. Did he deserve as much coverage as Obama or Clinton? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Oh, now you're just getting snide |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Crow ran as a Democrat in 2008: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Then shame on him for switching parties or for being a stealth Republican |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Cindy Sheehan and Cynthia McKinney are two other party switchers who deserve shame |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Shame? Not at all. At least they didn't go all right wing |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. They both ran trying to steal votes away from Democrats, causing the remote possibility of |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Cynthia McKinney had no chance of winning or even being a spoiler |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
93. I'm disappointed, but not really surprised |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
99. I think we're over-analyzing the transition. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
102. Look: Obama is NOT a stupid person. He has studied Lincoln, FDR, LBJ and Kennedy CLOSELY... |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
103. Double down on these issues... |
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