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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:44 PM
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'Spreading the wealth' is nothing new to U.S.
DEAN CALBREATH
'Spreading the wealth' is nothing new to U.S.

October 26, 2008

As the presidential election draws to a close, the campaign trail has come alive with allegations that Barack Obama is a “socialist” because he proposes to raise taxes on the wealthy while lowering them for the poor and middle class.

“Barack Obama calls it spreading the wealth,” Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin said last week. “But Joe the plumber and Ed the dairyman, I believe that they think that it sounds more like socialism. Friends, now is no time to experiment with socialism.”

But is it really socialism to talk of “spreading the wealth”?

Actually, it has been part of the American economic system since its founding.

In a letter to James Madison in 1785, for instance, Thomas Jefferson suggested that taxes could be used to reduce “the enormous inequality” between rich and poor. He wrote that one way of “silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.”

Madison later spoke in favor of using laws to “reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity (meaning the middle) and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort.”

During the early days of the republic, the government relied mostly on tariffs to collect revenue, under the theory that since the rich bought most of the imports, they would pay most of the taxes.

“The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the general government are levied,” Jefferson wrote in 1811. “The poor man, who uses nothing but what is made in his own farm or family, will pay nothing. (With) our revenues applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings.”

The theme of spreading the wealth has ebbed and flowed throughout American history, but it has constantly been present. When Abraham Lincoln introduced the first federal income tax in 1862, it was at a flat 3 percent rate for anyone making more than $600 a year, which was then a respectable salary. For instance, farmhands, who earned an average of $200, did not pay the tax.

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:47 PM
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1. Spread the wealth
This is the one subject that is p*ssing me off

The right wing repubes are twisting this subject around

Spreading the wealth does not mean that Obama is going to tax the rich and give to the poor that dont pay taxes (robin hood)
it means that finally we might have a fair tax system, where everyone pays their fair share
and no more loopholes for big corporations and rich people.....

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:51 PM
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2. It's annoying me, too. Just got an e-mail from a friend's sister, an
apparent bigot in NC. She hit send w/o looking who was in the address. One of her talking points was redistribution of wealth. Well! I gave her an earful!

;)
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:51 PM
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3. IMO, Obama is missing an opportunity regarding this
It's not "Socialism"- it's "Paying your way."

If you make $250,000+ in profits every year, you are doing it using gov't services: Roads, Police, Fire Depts, FAA, Coast Guard, Courts, etc.

The idea that you can do that and not have to pay for those services is LUDICROUS. The US doesn't even tax on gross income. Obama should be using this and shoving it down McCain's throat- why should the people who make money be exempt from paying for the services they use in favor of making us pay?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:21 PM
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4. For the last 26 years or so since Raygun
The corporate class has been on a mission to redistribute eveyone's wealth upwards to themselves. From givebacks in almost evey union contract to higher prices for every damned thing, this is the real redistribution of wealth. It's time we made them give back some of what they've taken since they began thier greed filled I, me, mine, mantra beginning in the Raygun/Bush years.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:21 PM
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5. Considering the $700 billion...
of middle class taxpayer wealth that just got spread among a few banks, I don't know why there are any complaints about the measly few $ going the other way.

Bill
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