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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:12 PM
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FactChecking McCain
Source: Newsweek

We checked the accuracy of McCain's speech accepting the Republican nomination and noted the following:

* McCain claimed that Obama's health care plan would "force small businesses to cut jobs" and would put "a bureaucrat ... between you and your doctor." In fact, the plan exempts small businesses, and those who have insurance now could keep the coverage they have.
* McCain attacked Obama for voting for "corporate welfare" for oil companies. In fact, the bill Obama voted for raised taxes on oil companies by $300 million over 11 years while providing $5.8 billion in subsidies for renewable energy, energy efficiency and alternative fuels.
* McCain said oil imports send "$700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." But the U.S. is on track to import a total of only $536 billion worth of oil at current prices, and close to a third of that comes from Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom.
* He promised to increase use of "wind, tide solar" energy, though his actual energy plan contains no new money for renewable energy. He has said elsewhere that renewable sources won't produce as much as people think.
* He called for "reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs," but as in the past failed to cite a single program that he would eliminate or reduce.
* He said Obama would "close" markets to trade. In fact, Obama, though he once said he wanted to "renegotiate" the North American Free Trade Agreement, now says he simply wants to try to strengthen environmental and labor provisions in it.


Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/id/157375
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:22 PM
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1. Facts don't help
Republics these days.......or any days.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:29 PM
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2. Facts and the Constitution are hindrances according to the GOP.
n/t
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jfkraus Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:37 PM
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3. Please...
...don't confuse the issue with facts.

--George Banks (from Mary Poppins)
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:03 PM
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4. Facts have that horrible liberal bias.
Only fantasy is even-handed by favoring rightwingers.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:38 PM
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5. John McCain is a liar. It's really that simple.

K & R.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:58 AM
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8. Did you watch Rachel subbing for Keith last night?. . SHE used the "L" word.
She used it clearly and more than once. Sarah Palin lied. McCain lied.

It was So-o-o-o nice to hear.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:53 AM
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12. That's great to hear. Because it's the only way we're going to succeed...

... at making Republican LIES the issue that it ought to be. They lie all the time, without shame, and the voters need to know it.

Calling their absurd lies "a difference of opinion", or "a misinterpretation of the facts," or any of the various synonyms murmured by timid talking heads... none of that works.

Call a lie a lie, call a liar a liar.

The American people deserve honest dialog, plain speech, and commentators with the courage to call it like it is.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:14 AM
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6. It is CHICKENSUIT time...
If someone wants to avoid more lies and secrecy, we should shame McCain into opening his camp up to the press.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3935501&mesg_id=3935647
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:36 AM
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7. Facts be damned..Everyone knows the Truth has a Liberal Bias
:shrug: Cult worship could care less about anything other than what they are told to care about and that is nothing more than winning..
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Dj13Francis Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:41 AM
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9. facts schmacts
Lies are all that matter. Lie big, and lie often. Lie, lie, and when you get cornered in a lie, lie some more. Lying liars lie and lying is all lying liars can do.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:18 PM
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10. Most people would be ashamed to make such lies. How could he be such a liar?
Bush and (sadly) Bill Clinton demonstrate the high cost of having liars as president. Just think how much more messed up this country will be should McCain become president and he'll use our government to defend his lies.

As I watched his commercials over the past two months, I've gradually learned that he is a complete liar. Now we have this list of lies that, in some cases, are even worse than his previous lies. McCain means bad news for America.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:46 PM
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11. I just read an article on alternet. Check this out::
The Article is titled, Exposing Five Dangerous Lies In John McCain's Big Speech:
http://www.alternet.org/election08/97813/exposing_five_dangerous_lies_in_mccain%27s_big_speech/?page=1
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