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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:04 PM
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George Will's Colbert appearance taken apart
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/

I now know why Elvis shot that TV set.

If you missed it, Stephen Colbert’s special guest last night was conservative pundit George Will. I almost typed “addle-headed pathological liar George Will,” but didn’t because I think a cursory look at what he actually said will make that clear enough.

The second half of the statement here is where things get tricky, because Will attempts to sneak a bald-faced lie past us in the form of an assumption: “…liberals tend to favor equality of outcome…” Ummm, no. Sure, some “liberals” (more on this in a moment) believe we’d be better off if our economic spectrum reflected a bit more equity in the quality of living standard, but I know a lot of “liberals” and pretty much none of them are telling me that everybody needs to be equal. I know that’s what Ayn Rand would have you believe everybody to the left of Goldwater thinks, but it’s just possible that somebody been trying to shove a straw man up our asses, you know?


No, George, what libruls favor is equality of opportunity. When we talk about a level playing field, we’re not saying guarantee us victory, we’re saying give us a fair chance. Sadly, way too many conservative policies, especially in the last couple of decades, have been explicitly predicated on denying the majority of our citizens equality of opportunity.

“What conservatives say is ‘we will protect you against idealism. We will protect you against the liberal faith that we can make something straight from the crooked timber of humanity.’ We understand that the government’s job is to deliver the mail, defend the shores and get out of the way.”

Wow. He begins with “we’ll protect you from idealism” and concludes with as raw a statement of idealist, ideological dogma as you’re likely to hear in this lifetime or any other. He does so using a neat little rhetorical trick, too - “we understand that” makes clear that this isn’t a belief or a posit, but a fact, a truth, that need not be examined in the same way you would any other theoretical proposition.

Paraphrasing this one: The reason people can’t afford health care is because of state mandates. and then this:

organize our animosities.”

But George, if the free market were working to provide affordable health care for all (or most, anyway), why would any state legislator propose mandates in the first place?

“We have two parties because we have basically two kinds of people.”

At this point I’m almost too dumbfounded to reply. All the brilliant people out there desperately trying to find an audience for their insights and this fuckwit gets to be on TV every week?!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:40 PM
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1. So! Stop watching TV! You are enabling Big Brother to
control the thoughts of everyone around you. Stop watching it. Stop subscribing to cable. You can watch what you want in terms of videos where you get to choose what you see. (Videos are cheaper than cable too.) How much TV do you need? How much to you pay for when you pay for cable? Stop being a part of this corrupt system. You don't have to march, just peacefully stop subscribing to cable.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:45 PM
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2. Much to my dismay, Stephen
did not do very well against his unexamined assumptions.. He is usually sharper than he was during this interview...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:18 AM
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3. I thought the same thing
and posted as such here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=143259

#9 was a great post

Will clearly misrepresents (or *snicker* doesn't know) that the end result business is their game not those of us dealing in reality.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:52 AM
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4. I've been calling him "George will you STFU" for about 25 years
now - have despised his theology from the first time I ever read his tripe.
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